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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear AD,<br>
<br>
Below is the data for your stove. It is GREAT for our
discussions. <br>
<br>
1. Making a PROFIT from the charcoal means that the fuel is
actually better than free!!!! As long as the fuel supply is
sustainable, this is BETTER THAN any consideration of fuel
efficiency or energy efficiency. <br>
<br>
2. The emission of
<blockquote type="cite">CO = 8.1 gm<br>
Particulate Matter = 69 mg</blockquote>
may or may not be excellent. We do not know how to interpret
those number when the cooking task was only stated as <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Emission Results (for cooking 2.5 lit
of food)</blockquote>
You can help interpret that, but until we have some uniform way of
reporting and comparing, we only have non-comparable numbers.
That is a big part of OUR problem (Our meaning all of us.)<br>
<br>
Perhaps the agency that did the testing can help interpret the
result. It that cooking task something standardized in India?<br>
<br>
Thank you for your data of results. It is not the same as
providing the RAW data as collected, but it is progress.<br>
<br>
Is there some Stover or Biochar Buff who would like to undertake
compiling the results from TLUD stoves?<br>
<br>
<br>
<strong>Details in brief</strong>
<blockquote type="cite">
<ul>
<li>Stainless steel outer body, mild steel fuel chamber</li>
<li>Fuel: Wood chips, pellets, biomass briquettes, small
twigs, wood chunks, etc.</li>
<li>Charcoal produced as a by-product</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Features of Sampada Stove</strong><br>
<span style="line-height: 1.3em; text-decoration: underline;"><br>
Source of Additional income</span></p>
<div>After cooking, charcoal is left behind in fuel holder.
Burning 1 kg of wood, leaves 200 g of charcoal.<br>
Cost of fuel wood (1 kg) = INR 2<br>
Value of charcoal by-product (200 gm) = INR 3<br>
Hence, profit earned / kg used fuel = INR 1</div>
<div><span style="text-decoration: underline;">A clean cooking
device </span></div>
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<tbody>
<tr>
<td>Emission Results<br>
(for cooking 2.5 lit of food)</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td>CO = 8.1 gm<br>
Particulate Matter = 69 mg</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
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<p align="justify"><span style="font:/normal "Times New
Roman"; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-transform: none;
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font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><strong>MRP
of Sampada (packaging and transport extra): INR 2150
(USD 43)</strong></span></span></p>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
On 4/27/2013 10:55 AM, Paul Anderson wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Stovers. I am seeking data
about TLUD stoves. I start with the response below to AD
Karve.<br>
<br>
Dear AD,<br>
<br>
Nice website. <br>
<br>
Your Samuchit stove is a type of TLUD. What test results do
you have about it? ALL types of tests, including the CO and PM
emissions, please.<br>
<br>
It sells for US$43. Please tell us some production numbers,
etc.<br>
<br>
And lets try to get similar data about the Champion TLUD made by
Servals in Chennai.<br>
<br>
Data for the Quad 2 TLUD are already posted, but lacking CO and
PM testing (equipment was not functional at the time of the
other tests, so I will try to have that testing done when I am
in Uganda soon.)<br>
<br>
NOTE: At Stove Camp at Aprovecho 22 -26 April, the major
thrust will be about TLUD stoves, with use of the LEMS / PEMS
etc to collect comparative data and to search for ways to
further improve all TLUD stoves. I will be there as one of the
camp leaders. We want the Samuchit and Champion and other
TLUDs there for for some important exploratory testing. And we
hope that many Stovers will attend.<br>
<br>
Paul (I am Paul A. or Dr TLUD. There is also Paul M. -
Paul Means of Burn Labs, and also Paul O. in Vietnam with Rice
Husk TLUDs, and maybe some other Paul's who are on the Stoves
Listserv but not sending so many messages.)<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
On 4/27/2013 6:39 AM, Anand Karve wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CACPy7SfiwrnNHkgEuM=PkJuSS51LCGPJFcsRY5kFMx7wSjgQFw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div>Dear Paul,</div>
<div>please have a look at our web site <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.samuchit.com/">www.samuchit.com</a>
which describes the cooking devices being offered by us. One
of our stoves called Sampada (which means wealth) gasifier
stove generates about 200g charcoal from 1 kg woody biomass.
The villagers can earn money by selling the charcoal to the
village blacksmith. Woody biomass in the form of stalks of
cotton and pigeonpea, shells and leaf raches of coconut,
and woody pods of various trees are available to the villagers
free of cost. The name Sampada was chosen for this stove
because it generates money by burning woody fuel that is
available for free. Our Sarai cooker is also a very popular
cooking device. Using the combination of the Sampada
stove (for burning the woody biomass) and the Sarai (meaning
celebration) cooker for burning the charcoal, the entire meal
for a family of five can be cooked by using just 1kg woody
biomass. This of course does not leave any charcoal for the
soil. <br>
Yours</div>
<div>A.D.Karve</div>
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