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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tmiles@trmiles.com href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">Tom Miles</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves'</A> ; <A title=frank@compostlab.com
href="mailto:frank@compostlab.com">'Frank Shields'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Jetter.Jim@epamail.epa.gov
href="mailto:Jetter.Jim@epamail.epa.gov">'Jim Jetter'</A> ; <A
title=wastemin1@verizon.net href="mailto:wastemin1@verizon.net">'Hugh
McLaughlin'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] Stove
Definition</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Kevin,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Lofty
ambitions need to be tempered in the field. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><STRONG><FONT
size=3 face=Arial># I can buy an Oil Furnace, or a Wood
Furnace, that includes an honest "Performance specifications" that report
on what the Oil Furnace will do. I can look at several such units and decide
what is best for my application. What I want to know is Fuel Burning
Efficiency, that is, of the fuel energy I provide, how much comes out as
useful heat. If I choose to run my wood furnace appropriately, I can cause it
to produce char. The Manufacturer does not say, </FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><STRONG><FONT
size=3 face=Arial>"Oh, since you don't completely burn the fuel in the furnace
because you want to put the char in your Garden, you can subtract 1/2 of the
energy in the char from the energy content in the fuel supplied, and
recalculate the efficiency in a manner that suits your purposes." What he
would say, if asked, would be: "Sure, you can do that, but you will burn more
fuel to get the same heating performance."</FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><STRONG><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></STRONG></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><STRONG><FONT
size=3 face=Arial># My "Lofty Ambition" is to provide the Stove Customer with
a clear, transparent, understandable, and correct report on the performance of
stoves, to assist him in making a rational purchase of a system relevant to
his needs, similar to what he gets when he buys a wood or oil furnace, but
suitably modified for cooking situations.</FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">You
have been on this list for several years. Unless you have been completely
ignorant you should have a clear idea of what organizations we all have been
contributing to<A name=_MailEndCompose> and what they have accomplished or are
attempting to accomplish. Do your homework and study the definitions and test
protocols that are in use and under development. If you want to adapt a test
procedure to “Customer” needs then get into the field: volunteer for a stoves
program, test stoves using various protocols, and install and monitor stoves
in the field. It is by no means as clear are you portray it. You will
understand why many very talented people are still working to meet the
challenges.<o:p></o:p></A></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT
size=3 face=Arial><STRONG># While there are indeed many very talented people
working on "challenges", an Engineering Student could could put together a
competent and meaningful "Stove Testing and Reporting Protocol" as a
Class Project. I would suggest that the biggest of the "challenges" being
addressed by many of the very talented people are not of a technical
nature. </STRONG></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><STRONG><FONT
size=3 face=Arial># "To solve a problem, first define it."
</FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><STRONG><FONT
size=3 face=Arial>Kevin</FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p><FONT
size=3 face=Arial><STRONG> </STRONG></FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tom
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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