<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Erin,</div><div><br></div><div>You hit the point!</div><div>Your proposal to combine a "normal-high-energy-stove" with a RHC (Retained Heat Cooker)</div><div> ( I call it now ) as a _combined cooking system_ you touch the same point I mentioned years before from another point of view. </div><div>You hit the energy saving aspect very well. As to use the "hot gas fire" further for other use.</div><div>Let me underline your statement by my old statement:</div><div><br></div><div> __We cannot turn down a "normal-stove" so much, as we have to, to use the simmering stage or better the low-temperature-stage to finish the cooking process.___ </div><div><br></div><div>All turning down is so less possible that the simmering-/low-temperature- process is done with oversized energy-use. - If heat-isolation was done by doing that process as good as possible, this process would be overheated.</div><div>I propose to call this second stage of cooking, reached by simmering or low-heat-cooking, the "maturing-process". This implicates that there is no more "real cooking" in the sense of boiling. And we can achieve it by a RHC or an "activated-RHC" , as I would call a normal RHC with an extra "energy-push" , given once by an heat-accumulator (( hay-box anno 1800 two bricks)) or continuous by an extra minimal Flame, ( could be a tea-candle -about 80 Watts)</div><div>We could call a normal stove just a stove and the second type a maturing-heater (if you would like an abbreviation: a MH :-) )</div><div> When we really want to save energy:</div><div> It needs, for a big number of "whole" cooking-processes, the two different cooking processes. And so it needs as well the normal stove (which can easily be stopped or further used for other purpose) as well as the MH.</div><div>Mind:</div><div>- Even a custom gas-burner cannot be turned down so much that it can do the maturing-process, when the pot is properly heat-isolated. </div><div>It even reaches not the process-perfection in minimizing the admitted heat when the pot is not isolated; how could it do this when the pot was good isolated??</div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Martin</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Message: 5<br>Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 16:10:35 -0700<br>From: "Erin Rasmussen" <<a href="mailto:erin@trmiles.com">erin@trmiles.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>>, "'Discussion of biomass cooking<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>stoves'"<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>"'Lanny Henson'"<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><<a href="mailto:lannych@bellsouth.net">lannych@bellsouth.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition<br>Message-ID: <014d01ce478a$41680c80$c4382580$@com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>The EcoKalan project in the Phillipines is using a "magic box" cooker with a rocket stove <a href="http://eco-kalan.com/">http://eco-kalan.com</a><br><br>I see no reason why you can't do the same thing with a char making stove. <br><br><br><br>Getting a starch or bean started on a gasifier stove, and then using the remaining gasifier energy to finish your breakfast while the cooker is saving you from using your coals to finish cooking your dinner, seems reasonable. <br><br><br><br>Erin<br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>