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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Just curious.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What size bottle costs USD $21.00</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Here in the Marshall Islands the standard US 20 lbs
bottle is $37.50 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and the small pressure cans in the stores run from
$0.96 up to $2.00 plus.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Michael N Ttvor</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=paul.olivier@esrla.com href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com">Paul
Olivier</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 04, 2013 11:28
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] The price of
bottled gas</DIV>
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<DIV>Philip,<BR><BR></DIV>Here in Vietnam bottled gas costs more than $21.00
US per bottle. There is no distribution problem here at all. Some households
use up a bottle in less than one month. When the monthly wage is not more than
$120 US per month, the situation is extremely dire.<BR><BR></DIV>In many parts
of Vietnam, rice hulls and coffee husks are often dumped in rivers and
valleys. Sometimes they are uselessly burned as a means of disposal. With the
right type of stove, these agricultural residues put out a beautiful blue
flame that rivals that of bottled gas. <BR><BR>When we derive energy from
fossil fuels, there is nothing of value left behind. But when we gasify or
pyrolyze biomass, a valuable biochar remains. When incorporated into the soil,
biochar promotes plant growth and sequesters carbon.<BR><BR>Why derive energy
from fossil fuels when we can get it from renewable biomass? <BR>Are you not,
in any way, concerned about global warming?<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks.<BR></DIV>Paul<BR>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Philip Lloyd <SPAN
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class=gmail_quote>Paul Oliver commented " The price of bottled gas is a huge
problem<BR>throughout most of the<BR>developing world."<BR><BR>Part of the
problem is poor models of distribution. Locally, we are seeing<BR>the
entry of a supplier who a) has found a way of filling 5kg bottles<BR>rapidly
at a central plant and b) distributing them directly to the retailer<BR>at
minimal cost, with a growing chain of retailers chosen so that
the<BR>householder can resupply within 500m. The net result is a
halving of the<BR>street price of bottle gas, and it is now the cheapest way
to cook.<BR><BR>The advantage of filling at a central plant is that safety
is greatly<BR>enhanced; and the discovery of a way of filling small
cylinders rapidly<BR>means high throughput and low costs. Most big
bottlers of gas don't like<BR>the really small cylinders because they
couldn't fill them rapidly enough to<BR>get throughput - it was cheaper (and
far less safe) to refill them at the<BR>retailers.<BR><BR>Regards to
all<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Stoves
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clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Paul A. Olivier PhD<BR>26/5 Phu Dong Thien
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