<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Lanny<br><br> How about this one:<br><br> <i>"A stove is an apparatus to which one can meaningfully apply the GACC WBT 4.2.2 procedures." </i>(Meaningfully meaning one can get out of group 1 results.)<i><br></i><br>Yesterday was Cinco de Mayo - and Denver has the US largest celebration. I bought a wonderful ear of corn ($3.00), that took 20 minutes to "roastl" (husk-on) in a gas-powered chain driven "oven-roaster" (but not a stove), with the corn travelng about 20 feet, with maybe 15 feet undergoing roastng. I can't see a way to apply any WBT to this device. I can barely see it for most of the other "apparati" being proposed<br><br>Ron<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Lanny Henson" <lannych@bellsouth.net><br><b>To: </b>"Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 6, 2013 7:24:39 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition<br><br><br><br><br><br>I apologize for the "is a pig on a stick over a fire a stove?" question.<br><br>I hope I did not cause the waist of too many man hours on such a silly <br>question.<br><br>To settle this issue so we can move on to more serious topics, I think I <br>finally have a definition for a stove that we can all agree on: When I saw <br>Crispin's photo of the skewers on a grill it came to me!<br><br>Stove: an apparatus that puts the heat, on the meat, so to speak. smile<br><br>Lanny<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: <ajheggie@gmail.com><br>To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:08 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition<br><br><br>> [Default] On Thu, 02 May 2013 19:49:13 -0500,Paul Anderson<br>> <psanders@ilstu.edu> wrote:<br>><br>>>Note: The 3-stone fire is a stove because of the 3 stones onto which a <br>>>pot can be placed. Take away the stones and you only have a fire and do <br>>>not have any stove structure, so a simple fire is not a stove.<br>><br>> But does it become one when a pot is suspended over it?<br>><br>> To my mind a stove needs some way to control air, either by<br>> controlling the draught or by restricting air. A 3 stone fire might do<br>> this but an open fire cannot.<br>><br>> AJH<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Stoves mailing list<br>><br>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>><br>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br>><br>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br>><br>> <br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br>http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br><br></div></body></html>