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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear Jock</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The IPCC told us that "Global Warming" was the problem.
They predicted how much the air temperature would rise, and they were wrong.
Their models were wrong. Now they are telling us about the dangers of "Climate
Change", and not global warming. The fundamental problem is that their models
have been shown to be faulty. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>"Consensus" is a "Political Process to get agreement."
"Consensus Science" is thus "Political Science", and not "Real Science."
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I like this quote from the referenced
article:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>" <FONT face="Times New Roman">“The climate may be
heating up less in response to greenhouse-gas emissions than was once thought,”
read </FONT><A
href="http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21574461-climate-may-be-heating-up-less-response-greenhouse-gas-emissions"
target=_window><FONT face="Times New Roman">the article’s
tagline</FONT></A><FONT face="Times New Roman">. “But that does not mean the
problem is going away.”</FONT> "</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial># With their models having been proved to be faulty, how
do they know there is a problem?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Kevin</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jg45@icloud.com href="mailto:jg45@icloud.com">Jock Gill</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:09
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] In praise of
kerosene</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve,</DIV>
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<DIV>Actually you have that wrong. The oceans are warming up
significantly, a very bad thing. It true that land temperatures have not
warmed as much as was expected. However this only buys a few extra years
before climate disruption becomes severe.</DIV>
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<DIV>All thesis well explained here: <A
href="http://nyti.ms/15sfbrd">http://nyti.ms/15sfbrd</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Jock</DIV>
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<DIV>Jock Gill</DIV>
<DIV>P.O. Box 3</DIV>
<DIV>Peacham, VT 05862</DIV>
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<DIV>Cell: (617) 449-8111</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>:> Extract CO2 from the atmosphere! <:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On May 11, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Steve Taylor <<A
href="mailto:steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk">steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Do you imagine that the higher and higher the concentration,
the worse it gets ? Even the IPCC acknowledges that isn't the case. 15 years
of rapidly rising CO2 concentrations, and zero change in global temperature,
acknowledged by many, including the UK Met Office. <BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 11 May 2013 12:43, Paul Olivier <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com"
target=_blank>paul.olivier@esrla.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Are you serious?<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=h5>On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Steve Taylor <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk"
target=_blank>steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Please read this - just in from the New York Times:<BR><A
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/science/earth/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-long-feared-milestone.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130511&_r=0"
target=_blank>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/science/earth/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-long-feared-milestone.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130511&_r=0</A><BR></DIV><BR></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>Or. 0.04% <BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Since we are all in favour of burning bio-mass, shouldn't we prefer
a higher level of CO2, which would significantly promote plant growth,
and encourage the growth of the stuff we want to burn ? <BR><BR></DIV>
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