<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="399" sd="null">Hi</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="400" sd="null">all</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="401" sd="null">I think this</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="402" sd="null">would be a good</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="403" sd="null">way to use</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="404" sd="null">the energy that is</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="405" sd="null">wasted in</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_886513232="406" sd="null">the process of producing</SPAN> <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" class=hps closure_uid_886513232="407" sd="null">coal, and also IŽll to get one of this beatifull steam machine, some of you let me know price.</SPAN></SPAN></div>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear Rob</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Very interesting!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Would you have any idea of how many pounds of wood per hour a TLUD would have to consume, to generate 1 Horsepower?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>How big would the boiler and TLUD have to be, to run a 1 HP engine?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Kevin</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=bajarob@gmail.com href="mailto:bajarob@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bajarob@gmail.com">Robert Lerner</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:54 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Stoves] Green Steam Engine</DIV>
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<DIV>Here is a link to a very cool innovative steam engine design: <A href="http://www.greensteamengine.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.greensteamengine.com/</A>. One big advantage of this design is that it scales down very nicely, suitable for small-scale TLUD burners. </DIV>
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<DIV>I saw it in operation several years ago. At the time he was looking for licensees. </DIV>
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<DIV>Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 10:54:57 -0700<BR>From: "Frank Shields" <<A href="mailto:frank@compostlab.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:frank@compostlab.com">frank@compostlab.com</A>><BR>To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"<BR><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=yiv7475781591Apple-tab-span></SPAN><<A href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>><BR>Subject: [Stoves] Using all the energy when char making<BR>Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:001e01ce5002$fb757a60$f2606f20$@compostlab.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:001e01ce5002$fb757a60$f2606f20$@compostlab.com">001e01ce5002$fb757a60$f2606f20$@compostlab.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>Stovers,<BR><BR>Seems there is often a lot of wasted energy that could be used when making<BR>char that is just flared
off. <BR><BR>I'm thinking the reason is that to convert to electricity one needs 1) a<BR>very clean syngas 2) an expensive motor and 3) costly up-keep. The generator<BR>is a onetime purchase with low maintenance.<BR><BR>So why not use a steam engine to convert the flame to electricity? Perhaps<BR>not as efficient but all you are doing is heating water so the gas need not<BR>be as clean as when drawn into an internal combustion engine. <BR><BR>Thanks <BR>Frank Shields<BR>BioChar Division<BR>Control Laboratories, Inc. <BR>42 Hangar Way<BR>Watsonville, CE 95076<BR>(831) 724-5422 tel<BR>(81) 724-3188 fax<BR><<A href="mailto:frank@biocharlab.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:frank@biocharlab.com">mailto:frank@biocharlab.com</A>> <A href="mailto:frank@biocharlab.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:frank@biocharlab.com">frank@biocharlab.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.controllabs.com/" rel=nofollow
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