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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Ron<BR> <BR>I do not see any point in arguing with all and anybody, to try to convince them , that <strong>gasifing of biomass </strong>are here to BE and will develop more rapidly, than anyone ever belived.<BR> <BR>What about the issue of biomass as fuel?<BR>Here are a LOT of challanges in preparation, production, handeling etc.<BR> <BR>Paul A and Ron, <BR>If, "Open Source", realy means something to you, then create a group of "belivers" and start from there.<BR> <BR>Thanks.<BR> <BR>Otto<br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">CC: stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>From: rongretlarson@comcast.net<br>Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 17:09:37 -0600<br>To: stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] fan expertise?<br><br><div><br>Paul O</div><div><br></div><div> To gain the wisdom that is out there.</div><div><br></div><div> Also to see if anyone is working, like you, with pre-mixing.</div><div><br></div><div> My thoughts aren't yet well enough formed to bother a whole group - but I am thinking open </div><div>source, like you</div><div><br></div><div>Ron<br><br></div><div><br>On May 25, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Paul Olivier <<a href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com">paul.olivier@esrla.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Ron,<br><br></div>Why discuss this on the list?<br><br></div>Paul<br><div><div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Ron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class="ecxgmail_quote"><div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div> Thanks for guidance.</div><div><br></div><div> The reason for not discussing on the list?</div>
<span class="ecxHOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Ron<br><br><br></div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On May 24, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Ron, <br>
<br>
On behalf of myself and two who are not subscribed to the Stoves
Listserv (Hugh McLaughlin and another Ron, last name Vanetten, who
is working with me in Normal Illinois), we each respond "Count me
in."<br>
<br>
Once you have your concept in an explainable form (words,
diagrams, etc), please consider sending it to those whom YOU
select to be included in the early stages of development. But
this should not be an open discussion on the Listserv. You have
started to form the group. Let's see who might be qualified to
be in the inner circle. Then Ron V. and I and others can also
share our progress.<br>
<br>
I hope that you might be surprised at how far some of us have
progressed in that direction, or what we can contribute to make
your initial mockup easier and better. <br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre>Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
On 5/24/2013 5:48 PM, <a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a> wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">List:<br>
<br>
I have a conceptual design for a different type of TLUD
(squat, extensive preheating of both types of air, balancing of
their ratio, and a pre-mixed flame). More costly than using one
can above another, but maybe less costly over long run, through
increased lifetime, efficiency and good turn down ratio. Might
be able to modify to enable natural draft. Lots of unknowns
still.<br>
<br>
I'd appreciate joining forces with anyone, but especially
those now working with fans and fan controllers.<br>
<br>
Hoping for a mockup to take to Dean Still's summer camp.<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
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