<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>can you send me pictures I can not see attachments </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Gus</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Rebecca A. Vermeer <ravermeer@telus.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> mtrevor <mtrevor@ntamar.net> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
<stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:57 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Stoves] stoves by the millions<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv9421947139">
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<div>Take out the words ”simple cheap long last” from your wish list of specs
and your crimped stoves will do.</div>
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<div>Rebecca Vermeer</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mtrevor@ntamar.net" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mtrevor@ntamar.net">mtrevor</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:09 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="ravermeer@telus.net" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ravermeer@telus.net">Rebecca A. Vermeer</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] stoves by the millions</div></div></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes but have you looked at what shipping a fired
clay stove from the Phillipines to Majuro would be?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I can not get Paul Oliver's stove from Vietnam or
Dr Belonios stove or Dr Nurthuda stove from Indonesia.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I was thinking more like 2 crimped creased foldable
sections like the attached photo of my helium bottle stove</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Michael N Trevor</font></div>
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<a title="ravermeer@telus.net" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ravermeer@telus.net">Rebecca A.
Vermeer</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves</a> ; <a title="mtrevor@ntamar.net" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mtrevor@ntamar.net">mtrevor</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="ravermeer@telus.net" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ravermeer@telus.net">Rebecca A. Vermeer</a> </div>
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<div>Hello Michael – look no further.</div>
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<div>Rebecca Vermeer</div>
<div>Eco-Kalan Project in Dumaguete City, Oriental side of Negros Island,
Philippines</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mtrevor@ntamar.net" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mtrevor@ntamar.net">mtrevor</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:52 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves</a> </div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">A simplistic view from the sand pile in the
ocean. After a number of years of stoving around there is one item I have yet
to see.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">a simple cheap long last elbow, say maybe 4
inches in diameter with approximately a 6/7 inch inlet side an a 12 to
15 inch up side</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Fired clay?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Fairly heavy guage stainless</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">ceramic </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Titanium. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I might be off base but even if made with exotic
materials a truely long lasting effective rocket elbow should not be that
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">expensive and would allow nearly anyone anywhere
to make a pretty good rocket stove out of nearly anything. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Like cut a 4 inch hole in carboard box and fill
it with sand. Box breaks down get another. Recyle a used paint bucket
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Seems to me I remember a term call
KISS.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Of course I may have just not looked in the right
place</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Michael N Trevor</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Marshall Islands.</font></div>
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