<p>True but as we head along you might be able to "grow" a truly nice stove body to house an internal insulated burner or rocket elbow bedded in vermicuite or pumice power.</p>
<p>There is some room for serious thought here</p>
<p>Michael N Trevor</p>
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<div>Art,<br /><br /></div>Not long ago I made reactor using refractory ceramic pipe. This pipe is designed to handle molten metal and is supposed to withstand temperatures up to 1,750 C. In less than two minutes into a TLUD burn with rice hulls, it cracked. It is hard to imagine that a reef-formed reactor will last very long.<br /> <br />
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<div>Crispin,<br /></div>That has to be just about these most imaginative stove building idea I have heard in years. The Estufa Finca_Talamanca project is located on the Caribbean coast of C.R. I think we would have just about the perfect environment to try this in. I am up in the 'states right now, but I am going to forward your suggestion to our team down there. We'll see how quick we can test this out. Can you send any links on this to flesh-out my understanding of how to do this right?<br />
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From: "mtrevor" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:mtrevor@ntamar.net">mtrevor@ntamar.net</a>><br />
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I have know Dr Tom Goreau since about 2007 and we have the first and only<br />
suscessful bio rock structure in the Marshall Island However it would not be<br />
fire proof in any way to my knowledge. I will check with Tom. just few<br />
month ago we thru another long exchang because my father made under water<br />
colo films in the Bahamas in the 1950's and Tom was tracing photos to try<br />
and record hisotrical change over 50 years or more. Othe stucture we have<br />
considered. I eve sugesste modular housing unit like 12 x 12 rooms.<br /> <br />
Michael<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />
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> Dear Michael<br />
><br />
> Do you remember the conversation a few years ago about clay and the<br />
> difficulty you had sourcing any? Without raw material it is difficult to<br />
> make a fired part.<br />
><br />
> How about using DC power and a wire mesh to grow parts in the ocean? They<br />
> do that in Dominica in the Caribbean. There are reefs made that way and<br />
> one could grow a complex stove body using only solar panels and sea water.<br />
><br />
> There are some very dense materials that can be made this way if it is<br />
> done slowly. I have a couple of samples from the early 90's.<br />
><br />
> It would burn and be affected by the fire after a while but it can be<br />
> locally made without having to carve or shape it. Just use wire mesh and<br />
> make whatever shape you want and connect it to the DC power. Calcium<br />
> deposits on it. In theory you could make complex parts with air holes and<br />
> pot rests.<br />
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> It is the ultimate lazy man's to build thing like furniture and fences.<br />
><br />
> Regards<br />
> Crispin in Beijing's 31 deg. What a change from the snow.<br />
>>From BB9900<br />
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