<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Trevor: with ccs<br><br> I am anxious to hear also from Tom G - also a friend.<br><br> In the meantime, I suggest your thinking about cast two-hole concrete blocks. I have been to Majuro several times and have a vague feeling that they are or could be made there now, given (maybe) a need for not much more than water, sand and sea shells (or pebbles).and of course cement, which I am sure you have easy access to - maybe even blocks (which are super cheap).<br><br> I have successfully run a TLUD design using one block above another (with nails as separators below and between) several times, even a few months ago. No breakage apparent, but I have never run one long term for life testing. They remained relatively cool to the touch.<br><br> I can't recall seeing this approach ever mentioned on this list. Anyone?<br><br>Ron<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"mtrevor" <mtrevor@ntamar.net><br><b>To: </b>crispinpigott@gmail.com, "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, May 30, 2013 1:49:34 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] stoves by the millions<br><br><br>I have know Dr Tom Goreau since about 2007 and we have the first and only<br>suscessful bio rock structure in the Marshall Island However it would not be<br>fire proof in any way to my knowledge. I will check with Tom. just few<br>month ago we thru another long exchang because my father made under water<br>colo films in the Bahamas in the 1950's and Tom was tracing photos to try<br>and record hisotrical change over 50 years or more. Othe stucture we have<br>considered. I eve sugesste modular housing unit like 12 x 12 rooms.<br><br>Michael<br><br><br><br>-- Original Message -----<br>From: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <crispinpigott@gmail.com><br>To: "Stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:33 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] stoves by the millions<br><br><br>> Dear Michael<br>><br>> Do you remember the conversation a few years ago about clay and the <br>> difficulty you had sourcing any? Without raw material it is difficult to <br>> make a fired part.<br>><br>> How about using DC power and a wire mesh to grow parts in the ocean? They <br>> do that in Dominica in the Caribbean. There are reefs made that way and <br>> one could grow a complex stove body using only solar panels and sea water.<br>><br>> There are some very dense materials that can be made this way if it is <br>> done slowly. I have a couple of samples from the early 90's.<br>><br>> It would burn and be affected by the fire after a while but it can be <br>> locally made without having to carve or shape it. Just use wire mesh and <br>> make whatever shape you want and connect it to the DC power. Calcium <br>> deposits on it. In theory you could make complex parts with air holes and <br>> pot rests.<br>><br>> It is the ultimate lazy man's to build thing like furniture and fences.<br>><br>> Regards<br>> Crispin in Beijing's 31 deg. What a change from the snow.<br>>>From BB9900<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: "mtrevor" <mtrevor@ntamar.net><br>> Sender: "Stoves" <stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:52:12<br>> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>> Reply-To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>> <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>> Subject: [Stoves] stoves by the millions<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Stoves mailing list<br>><br>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>><br>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>><br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists<br>.org<br>><br>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Stoves mailing list<br>><br>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>><br>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>><br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists<br>.org<br>><br>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br>><br>><br>> -----<br>> No virus found in this message.<br>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<br>> Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3184/6365 - Release Date: 05/28/13<br>> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br>http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br><br></div></body></html>