<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Paul et al.,</div><div><br></div><div>Re., rice hull combustion at the household level; What is dangerous to some is often survival- or at minimum, subsistence to others eh? </div><div>Rice straw is an excellent binder for the rice hulls and almost anything else that is granular and combustible.</div><div>But this is hardly a disencentive to burning rice hulls so I do apologise for that part.</div><div>Richard Stanley</div><div><a href="http://www.legacyfound.org">www.legacyfound.org</a><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 14, 2013, at 20:55, Paul Olivier <<a href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com">paul.olivier@esrla.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>JJ,<br><br></div>I would not recommend that you burn rice hulls ir rice straw.<br></div>In many cases this is quite dangerous.<br><br></div>Paul<br><div><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM, JJ Claire <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pugoclaire@yahoo.com" target="_blank">pugoclaire@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><div><span>Greetings one and all,</span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>I visit the Philippines often and usually stay about six months a year. </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>I often use </span><span>a rice hull stove. I would like to get a plan to build a </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>concrete stove. </span><span>I am also wondering if there is such a thing as building </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>an 'oven' using </span><span>cement and/or concrete? I would like to build one, </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>a white model if </span><span>possible, [vice a black model], if such a plan is </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>available and if the </span><span>technology would be practical. We have a </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>lot of rice hulls and not </span><span>all that much firewood. </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>I would be open to heating the oven with firewood and then </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>maintaining the heat level with or by burning rice hulls. I have</span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>a lot of rice hulls and want to make the best use of the hulls.</span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>I currently use the wood ashes to make lye so I can make soap, </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>but I have not used any ashes from rice hulls to make lye. I</span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>wonder if making lye with rice hulls is possible.<var></var></span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>The rice hull stoves we use are sort of a </span><span>metal pail with a wire rack. </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>I am looking for a stove, hopefully one </span><span>that is hot, medium and cool, </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><span>for cooking with rice hulls over a long </span><span>number or years. </span></div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">On our island, rice hulls are still burned to 'get rid of them', and </div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">believe it or not, rice straw is still burned. I often ask neighboring</div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">farmers to bring me their straw and provide them a small bit of </div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">cash for doing so. We use the rice straw for making compost.</div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">We add some rice hulls to the compost. Most of the rice hulls</div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">are burned for fuel to cook with. We add the char from the cooking</div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">process to the garden. I am wondering if we are making the best</div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">use of the rice hulls and if the plans I am speaking of by post </div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">are available. </div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">Please inform, I am open to suggestions and direction.</div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">Blessings,</div>
<div style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif">JJ</div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 14, 2013 5:02 PM<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Stoves] Chimneys, rice husks<br></font></div>
<div><br>[Default] On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:37:30 -0400,"Crispin<br>Pemberton-Pigott" <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@gmail.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>>We are experimenting in Indonesia with draft-operated buoyancy balancers to limit the pull to the ideal even when combustion conditions change in the large wood stoves. They are easy and cheap to make. They are mounted on the side of the stack of all oil furnaces.<br>
<br>We have used them on pellet stoves (which have their own id fans) to<br>limit draught on an insulated ss chimney that rose through 4 floors. I<br>wasn't entirely happy with the idea as it raised the possibility of<br>
the boiler room getting combustion products if the seal wasn't good, I<br>would have been happier if the air was sucked from outside. In fact<br>there was subsequently a problem but this was down to
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