<div dir="ltr"><div>In a previous email I had cited an article by Mark Bittman concerning ocean acidification. Crispin responded to me off-list and said:<br></div><br clear="all"><div><div><p class=""><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">That was the most outrageous set of nonsense on oceans and CO2 I have seem. What rubbish. </span></i></p>
<p class=""><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> The oceans are not acidic.</span></i></p><p class=""><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">CO2 absorbed by water turns about 1% into carbonic acid, a fragile composition with a short lifespan.</span></i></p>
<p class=""><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">If the oceans were to absorb many many gigatons of CO2 it would become slightly less alkaline.</span></i></p>
<p class=""><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">It
seems that Bittman does not even know the most basic facts about oceans
and just attributes everything he sees to ‘AGW’. His writings are not
helping the reputation of science. His view are not informing the
discussion. His conclusions are worthy of ridicule.</span></i></p><p class=""><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Fish
and mollusk populations rise and fall with the food supply. When the
PDO changed in 1976 there were also large population shifts. It has
shifted again. The shift is 100% natural and has nothing to do with
human fuel use.</span></i></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span>I replied to his email as follows:<br></p><p class=""><i>Please do not label everything that you disagree with as rubbish, nonsense, or as worthy of ridicule. It is hard to conduct a debate when you use such language.<br>
<br>I would like to draw your attention to the following:<br></i>
<i><a href="http://www.sightline.org/research/northwest-ocean-acidification/" target="_blank">http://www.sightline.org/research/northwest-ocean-acidification/</a><br><a href="http://www.sightline.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2012/02/OA-primer1.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.sightline.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2012/02/OA-primer1.pdf</a><br>
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<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification</a><br></i></p><div><i><a href="http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification" target="_blank">http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification</a><br>
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<i><a href="http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F" target="_blank">http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F</a><br><br></i></div><i>I
would like to ask the members of this stove list: why do we go about
designing stoves? Are we only concerned about poor people in developing
countries who sit around dirty campfires? Or do we want to design stoves
that at the same time address important issues such as climate change,
global warming and ocean acidification? <br></i><br>Thanks.<br></div><div>Paul<br></div><div>---<br>Paul A. Olivier PhD<br>26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong<br>Dalat<br>Vietnam<br>
<br>Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)<br>Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)<br>Skype address: Xpolivier<br><a href="http://www.esrla.com/" target="_blank">http://www.esrla.com/</a>
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