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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear Rebecca<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for the good pictures. Please get good drawings of the oven and a couple of photos of how it sits on the stove. I will pass them to Prianti Utami if she is not watching (she subscribes here).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>++++++++</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear Dean, Paul, Everyone at the Aprovecho Stove Camp 2013 and Stovers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dean, Paul – Thank you very much for organizing Stove Camp 2013. It was the first I attended and will be one of many in the future. I had so much fun and great learning opportunities from EVERYONE there. I also want to thank Larry Winiarski for fulfilling my request for a simple and affordable oven powered by the small family-sized Eco-Kalan for the street food vendors and Bingka (coconut rice cake) & Torta makers in the Philippines. I tested this oven on Thursday night with 2 baking pans of Brownies – Paul, Art and others can attest to the baking performance of the oven. The small Eco-Kalan heated the barrel oven within a few minutes and easily maintained the desired baking temperature (325 degrees F) for an hour. For the Friday luncheon which Larry and I gave to the Stove Campers, I baked chicken drumsticks with my BBQ sauce at 400 deg initially and later turned down to 350 deg F. The chicken was baked perfectly – it was so good Simon Anderson could not resist raiding the leftovers at 1 AM Saturday!! Larry’s oven is a darn good oven which I will further develop in the Philippines. I also want to thank Mariela from the Dominican Republic, David of the Dona Dora plancha stove fame and Bruce for getting the rice, salad and chicken curry prepared for the hungry multitude!! THANK YOU ALL for giving me the opportunity to show what the family size Eco-Kalan and the Eco-Kalan-C can do.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Rebecca <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:hfyblx@163.com" title="hfyblx@163.com">Huangfu Yibo</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:13 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking stoves</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Re: [Stoves] Final (?) report on stove camp<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>Dear Dr.,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you for your share about the stove camp in ARC, I am glad you have had a very good time during the camp and I hope I could attend and learn more about TLUD stoves. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jacky<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>At 2013-07-28 08:07:02,rongretlarson@comcast.net wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0mm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>List:<br><br> This is to give a few more final sentences on the running of the camp. "Everyone" doing tests or preparing for ones by modifying existing stoves when I got there at 8:00 for an official start at 9:00. (Earlier, I drove to the other part of Aprovecho - permaculture - about 6 miles away.) Probably a few had worked both late the previous night (and other nights) and had also started earlier than 8:00 AM.. A little later than normal, the AM meeting featured Dean giving design tips (TARP-V earlier [I need help - I can't find my notes on that acronym]) and this time "MAMMA" (Mixing, Architecture, Metering, Moisture, Air). Also numerous slides on the production in China of the StoveTec product.<br><br> Many people then were cooking for a big final luncheon. Especially Rebecca on a chicken curry in a huge pot atop one of the two clay stoves she had brought (her main change was dropping the pot support heights to improve convective heat transfer). Larry W. was roasting chicken in a horizontal closed 55 gallon drum atop a rocket. Many salads appeared<br><br> I watched the testing of an interesting stove designed by Kirk Harris (from La Rosa (?) CA. This was much larger version of a camping stove he brought. Good results on abbreviated testing. I'll write a separate report on this design as it had several features I have not seen elsewhere.<br><br> Had intersting talks with the other two (besides Rebecca) from outside the US. Both named "Omar" - from Senegal and Burkina Faso. Both very knowledgeable - and here looking for improved designs for their own countries.<br><br> Last event of the day - hearing of the latest results and then a chance to vote on two $500 prizes. Leaders on the TLUD side seemed to be Paul Anderson's and Art Donnelly's - but people could vote for any stove. Due to air schedules, I missed the final vote tally. I hope someone can report all results.<br><br> Final wrap-up comment:<br> . The camp was very well run (its eleventh?). The price of $300 is a bargain if you have a design and know nothing about its emissions. But for serious stove researchers the lab is also open for free (!) testing.. Lots of expertise here and very friendly support staff (free coffee and donuts all day - and numerous chances to interact with others informally. I have two brand new design ideas myself to try out.<br><br> Questions and thoughts?<br><br>Ron<br><br> This report a little rushed. Hope others will chime in - especially with the voting results.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>