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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Philip,<br>
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Try Harry Stokes, "Project Gaia".<br>
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<a href="http://www.projectgaia.com/">http://www.projectgaia.com/</a><br>
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They are a member of The Global Alliance for Clean Cookstoves
(GACC).<br>
<br>
Apparently they won a national <i>Energy Globe</i> award for
Ethiopia for their project that placed Clean Cook stoves into a
very remote refugee camp in Ethiopia near the Somali border...<br>
<br>
They use "micro distilleries" inside the communities, rather than
those large-scale systems that one normally finds deployed (by
large corporations) in developing countries:<br>
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I first came across Harry and his team when I was researching and
promoting the Worldstove (biomass gasifier) in Haiti because I
thought that there would be some great <i>synergies</i> between
the two types of stoves:<br>
<br>
<blockquote>1. A biomass [gasifier] stove that uses (for instance)
[pelletized] sugarcane bagasse (waste) as the "fuel", and
produces biochar that can then be put into [depleted] soils
(like in Haiti)... and used to grow more (sugarcane) biomass...<br>
<br>
2. An ethanol stove that uses bio-alcohol (bioethanol) that is
made from the sugarcane biomass [that is grown in the biochar
amended soils]. The processing of the sugarcane to produce the
bioethanol also produces bagasse (waste) which can then be used
by the biomass [gasifier] stove to make more biochar that can be
used in the soil to grow more sugarcane...<br>
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<br>
(It's called "Industrial Ecology", and it makes sense in a lot of
cases. Just talk to anyone in the American Chemical Society... or
Yale University ... and all those folks trying to develop
"eco-industrial parks". This is what China's "<i>Circular Economy</i>"
concept is based upon. It can also be done at a "smaller scale".
Just talk to people like <b>Folke Günther</b> at Uppsala
University in Malmö...)<br>
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I thought that is would be a great "synergy" between two
different types of stoves.<br>
Note: Roger Samson from REAP Canada (
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) was also involved in some of those conversations.<br>
(Unfortunately Nathaniel M. did not think it was a very good idea
at the time, and provided some rather "harsh" words to me for
"promoting" <i>another </i>company's stove! He also thought
that Ethanol was "<i>not a good short term solution (for Haiti).
Not until the soil is better</i>".)<br>
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Regards,<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"> Lloyd Helferty, Engineering Technologist
Principal, Biochar Consulting (Canada)
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.biochar-consulting.ca">www.biochar-consulting.ca</a>
48 Suncrest Blvd, Thornhill, ON, Canada
905-707-8754
CELL: 647-886-8754
Skype: lloyd.helferty
Steering Committee coordinator
Canadian Biochar Initiative (CBI)
President, Co-founder & CBI Liaison, Biochar-Ontario
National Office, Canadian Carbon Farming Initiative (CCFI)
Come learn about biochar in October:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.carbon-negative.us/symposium">www.carbon-negative.us/symposium</a>
Member of the Don Watershed Regeneration Council (DWRC)
Manager, Biochar Offsets Group:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2446475">http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2446475</a>
Advisory Committee Member, IBI
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=42237506675">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=42237506675</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://groups.google.com/group/biochar-ontario">http://groups.google.com/group/biochar-ontario</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.meetup.com/biocharontario/">http://www.meetup.com/biocharontario/</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.biocharontario.ca">http://www.biocharontario.ca</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.biochar.ca">www.biochar.ca</a>
"Technology is only a tool. Sustainability is determined not by the the individual technologies, but rather how -- and even whether -- we decide to use them."
- Lloyd Helferty</pre>
On 2013-08-11 12:05 PM, Philip Lloyd wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Just to repeat a request I made earlier (and which may have gotten lost in a
welter of stuff I failed to delete before I replied :-}) Are there no longer
any bioenergy stovers working on bioethanol fuels in the whole wide world?
Keep burning
Philip Lloyd
Energy Institute
Cape Peninsula University of Technology
PO Box 652, Cape Town 8000
Tel:021 460 4216
Fax:021 460 3828
Cell: 083 441 5247
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lloydp@cput.ac.za">lloydp@cput.ac.za</a>
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