<div dir="ltr">Another New York Times article relating to climate change:<br><a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/the-new-nuclear-craze/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130824&_r=0">http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/the-new-nuclear-craze/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130824&_r=0</a><br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Paul Olivier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com" target="_blank">paul.olivier@esrla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>AJ,<br><br></div><div class="im">You write:<br><i>Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary<br>
reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on<br>
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Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic.<br><br></i></div></div>I am not trying to goad the bull. When I insert quoted texts, this is a way of underlining important points that the author is making. Surely this cannot be controversial. I was staying on-topic: the topic was climate change.<i> </i>I see no problem discussing policy issues as long as people remain polite and civil.<i> </i>Using language such as "nonsense" to describe the position of someone with a different view point of view is totally out of place. It is hard to imagine that environmental issues do not impact the way we design stoves. Let me give an example in the reverse sense.<br>
<br></div>Suppose that I believe that human activity has nothing to do with climate change, global warming and ocean acidification, and that biochar does not enhance plant growth, reduce water and fertilizer use, and lock away carbon into the soil. These beliefs, no doubt, will influence my approach to stove design. Based on these beliefs, why should I not design a TLUD that is optimized to burn up all the char that it produces? Or I might even design a second stove optimized for the burning char, and this second stove would be ideal for the slow simmering of food. Later after all of this design effort, I begin describing the details of these new designs to the stove list. But I become so dismayed to find out that some people on the list do believe in climate change and the benefits of biochar. Some even go so far as to label my beliefs as nonsensical, and then I begin to doubt myself. Perhaps all of the effort I made in coming up with these new designs was a waste of time. So I then call upon the stove list to begin discussing the policy and beliefs that underline stove design. As long as the members of the stove list treat one another with respect, why not?<br>
<br></div>Many thanks.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Paul Olivier<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><img src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif"><br>
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</div></div></div></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:37 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ajheggie@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajheggie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">[Default] On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:59:48 +0700,Paul Olivier<br>
<<a href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com" target="_blank">paul.olivier@esrla.com</a>> wrote one line of text and quoted a whole<br>
digest again:<br>
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Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary<br>
reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on<br>
[stoves] by others.<br>
<br>
Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic.<br>
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AJH<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><div class="im">-- <br>Paul A. Olivier PhD<br>26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong<br>Dalat<br>Vietnam<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Paul A. Olivier PhD<br>26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong<br>Dalat<br>Vietnam<br>
<br>Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)<br>Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)<br>Skype address: Xpolivier<br><a href="http://www.esrla.com/" target="_blank">http://www.esrla.com/</a>
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