<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Bernie etal adding stoves list again and (hopefully) Elsen Karstad of "Chardust"<div><br></div><div> Thanks again for more data.</div><div><br></div><div> I think this still indicates a good chance for an industry in Kenya for producing char from wood in stoves - and driving the cost of cooking negative.</div><div><br></div><div> Because yours and his did not go to the full stoves list - I think inadvertently - I will add that Crispin asked about the stoves used to boil water.</div><div><br></div><div> I add Elsen because you mentioned "char dust", because Elsen was an active member of the stoves list in the early days and is one of the founders of the chardust company. I urge readers to see his website at <a href="http://www.chardust.com/">http://www.chardust.com/</a>, where that company talks about providing legal char. This also gives me one more chance to apologize for my causing him a lot of grief when I go seriously ill in Nairobi - maybe 15 years ago.</div><div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 10, 2013, at 10:10 AM, <a href="mailto:mueller-solartechnik@gmx.net">mueller-solartechnik@gmx.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Crispin, Lanny and Ron,<br>I mailed with some contacts in Kenya and present you the following details:<br><br>1 sack of charcoal in Kisumu = KES 1500/60kg = $ 17/60kg = $ .28/kg<br>Firewood in Kisumu = KES 10 to 15/kg = $ .11 to .14/kg<br>Firewood in Nairobi = KES 50/kg = $ .56/kg<br>1 Gorogo*) Charcoal in Kisumu = KES 50/kg = $ .56/kg<br>1 Gorogo Charcoal in Nairobi = KES 70/kg = $ .78/kg<br>1 sack of chardust briquettes = KES 800/25kg = $ .35/kg<br><br>To boil 5 litres of water, you need approximately:<br>300g chardust briquettes (22 MJ/kg) or<br>200g charcoal (30 MJ/kg) or<br>400g dry wood (15 MJ/kg).<br><br>I did not made the tests myself and do not know, how reliable the test persons are.<br><br>*) 1 Gorogo is a little bit more than one kg of dry charcoal. If either one of you want a photo, please inform me; you'll get it right away.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Bernie<br>(Author of the brochure "Pyrolysekocher - Micro Gasifiers", 20p German and English,<br>ISBN 978-3-8442-6595-8 and the book "Das Solarkocher-Handbuch", 240p German,<br>ISBN 978-3-8442-4471-7)<br><br> | Bernhard Müller<br> | Mühlstraße 26<br> | 65760 Eschborn <br> | Allemagne - Germany - Deutschland<br> | Fon +49 160 9498 9966<br> | <a href="http://www.mueller-solartechnik.com">http://www.mueller-solartechnik.com</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>