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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
On 10/22/2013 1:20 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
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<pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">When it comes to mass of fuel consumed, the energy in it and so on, the lab is agnostic. There are no holy </span></pre>
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<pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">stoves and there are no holy fuels. The stove does what it does, emits what it emits, and consumes </span></pre>
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<pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">what it consumes. We just report it. Don’t shoot the messenger.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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Paul replies: Sorry, but the testing centers do NOT report BOTH the
FUEL consumption and the ENERGY consumption. A major point of
the Shields E450c method is to show the ENERGY consumption and the
ENERGY efficiency. It is the people who only talk about FUEL
(and who avoid acknowledging the difference concerning energy
because of the energy in the charcoal) who are the ones making the
problem continue on and on and on. <br>
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When the statement finally comes about testing procedures and
reporting for pyrolytic stoves that produce charcoal, I hope that
the distinction between energy and fuel is clearly made AND is
reported in each report of a stove tested.<br>
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Although gasifiers have existed for a long time, gasifier STOVES
(especially those that yield charcoal) have not. So some changes
are needed in the reporting of the results.<br>
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Paul<br>
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