<div dir="ltr">Interesting discussion, sorry if this is a bit off the point but has anyone done or heard of any new life cycle analysis research on the manufacturing and distribution aspects of new stoves vis-a-vis the ones made in brand new in factories as opposed to the ones made by hand at a village level with recycled materials? <div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Dean Still <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:deankstill@gmail.com" target="_blank">deankstill@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Dear Crispin,<div><br></div><div>The Chinese honey combed briquettes are also made to be stacked in cook stoves and heating stoves. The temperatures can reach 1200C. There doesn't seem to be enough air on top of the burn so adding secondary air helped to burn up the CO.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As you saw, the widespread use of coal has sustained the Chinese solid fuel cook stove industry. I hear that there are more than 2,000 cook stove manufacturers resulting in lots of factories with the ability to transition to wood burning cook stoves. On the other hand, India doesn't have big factories making solid fuel stoves so China is better placed to make a transition.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Dean</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@gmail.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dear Dean<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">That is interesting. I have not seen on of those igniters. I have seen others but there are more like BBQ lighters.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The Korean multi-hole briquette burner came with tongs to set the bqs in such a way that air was able to pass vertically through a stack of them – three high. It was top-lit but didn’t have particularly good upper combustion giving a very consistent CO/CO2 ratio of 3.8%.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It did have enough draft to work properly, but extracted too much heat from the heat exchanger/pipes and suffered a lot from condensation and corrosion problems. About 10,000 were given away by the company that sold fuel. The PM was very low.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Crispin<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Crispin,<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">In a honey combed briquette there are many holes. The electric lighter has elements in each of the holes and the briquette lights without making smoke. I'll bring one to ETHOS and show folks a coal stove burning without making smoke.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Great to hear your innovations!<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dean<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><br></div></div>
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