<div dir="ltr">Hi Richard,<div><br></div><div style>Please get your briquetting groups in contact with me so that I can get them involved in the Stoves and Fuels Cluster being formed in Guatemala.</div><div style><br></div>
<div style>+502-4343-3209</div><div style><br></div><div style>Antigua, Guatemala</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Richard Stanley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rstanley@legacyfound.org" target="_blank">rstanley@legacyfound.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"> This is where we are headed in a larger diameter form in Guatemala but in case it helps anyone ..<div>
Richard Stanley</div><div>Antigua Guatemala<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium;color:rgba(0,0,0,1)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium;color:rgba(0,0,0,1)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">November 10, 2013 8:31:48 AM CST<br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium;color:rgba(0,0,0,1)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">Richard Stanley <<a href="mailto:rstanley@legacyfound.org" target="_blank">rstanley@legacyfound.org</a>>, Evan Marks <<a href="mailto:e.marks@creaf.uab.es" target="_blank">e.marks@creaf.uab.es</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium;color:rgba(0,0,0,1)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>Re: :Re: Tlud Briquettes in Nicaragua CA</b><br>
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<div>Dear Evan and Richard,<br>
<br>
Sorry for the late reply, but your message was sidetracked in my
system.<br>
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I hope that all is going well for the project. I see that Evan
has about one week remaining in Nicaragua.<br>
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Please keep me posted about the progress.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank">+1-309-452-7072</a>
Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com/" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
On 10/20/2013 11:26 PM, Richard Stanley wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Evans, (and Paul Anderson),
<div>You enquiry about smaller sized sausages briquettes for
your Tlud stove you are developing with the students in
Nicaragua is something that would be very much of interest to
what Paul Andersion is into in the stoves news group. I can
probably assume you are already in ongoing contact with each
other but I am l ccy'ng this to Paul just in case. Below are
two or three approaches we are proposing to Paul fo his
produciton fo same fuel, for his Tlud stoves in response to his
initial request for same. At the base mold change -only level
they are geared o use with a hand operated lever press many
types out online and in the field already.. We are also
proposing that for larger scale production you consider the
design below which should easily be capable of 25 - 30 sausages
a minute with two or three operators. <br>
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<div> I hope thatif yo consider or rather convince the
students to consider developing these you and they will keep
us in the loop as there are many who would like to have
access to such technologies and the students and faculty
cold foma training agenda for such and or sell the
technology product to further fund their own activities . We
will be only too happy to see that happen as it gives us a
resource to link to for the many enquiries we receive from
the region.</div>
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<div>And the mass production press:</div>
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<div><img style="font-size:13px" height="727" width="1017" src="cid:part3.05030503.01040503@ilstu.edu"> </div>
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<div>-Evan Marks</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/17 Richard Stanley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rstanley@legacyfound.org" target="_blank">rstanley@legacyfound.org</a>></span><br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Evans,
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<div>Thanks much for your interest in us ! Please,
first send me some design sketches or photos of
the stove you are developing. Briquettes are quite
varied in shape, composition and burn profile but
there are still some stoves in which they work
better than others. We can think about varying
these factors to best fit your stove if it any or
all of the following works out.
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<div>We will be in Nicaragua from the 20th
November through the 17th December, based in
Granada. Although you do not have funds for
our fees, we would be willing to forego those
in the interest of gaining insights and
exposure to the Nicaraguan landscape
for briquette potential-– a "landscape" of which
we have practically no knowledge. Perhaps
however, you could just arrange lodging and
travel to Esteli for the conference you are
proposing.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>We are finishing a year long training and
technology development exercise in Guatemala
(though National Geographic) and will be looking
into possibilities for the Guatemalan trainers
to come down and train others in the art and
craft of briquette-making there in Nicaragua. In
doing that as we did in Guatemala and before, we
try to position our efforts where there is-or
will be a real <u>economically justified</u>
need for the briquette fuel poduced locally for
the producers own local market(s). It all
hinges on the fact that the producers will have
a viable market for their briquette product.
Once that is in place, all the socal and
anvironmental benefits accrue, but only as long
as the briquette is being produced and sold. If
it is not going to b an econmically viale
proposition for the local producer, we generally
will not undertake the project, as we do not
have the funds to support the process beyond
initial training and follow up. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This rather" tough love" approach assures a
certain solidity of the producer network once
established but it also ensures a drop out rate
of 30 to 40% due, often, to well entrenched
expectations of sustained donor support; AKA
the 'donor dependency syndrome'. </div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>In that vein, and as concersn a conference,
while we welcome discussions with faculty and
students about the theory, technology choices,
training approach and impacts of the briquette
embedding program, we'd like to try for a
greater--and self sustaining-- impact than just
that of a conference alone: </div>
<div>Let me propose to you that we plan it so that
the results of our combined discussions and
learning at the proposed conference, be directed
in such a way as to assure direct beneficial and
measurable impact in the local community where
there is economic justification for the
briquette and presumably the stove you are
developing. If he briquette is found by pre
assessment, to be economically non-viable in the
immediate locale of the conference, we would
need to see where else it could work and
further, how the conference participants would
be linked to that community to assess, plan,
train and track the community's experience with
the briquete technology.</div>
<div><br>
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<div> If, as a result of the conference, two or
three student teams (hopefully aided by
trainers from Guatemala) can proceed to go out
and start new production activities, the
conference can be economically rationalised and
inter-alia, the sustained socal and
environmental benefits, can be logically
projected. Equipped with this kind of approach
and data, I feel that we could provide much
more pleasent music to any donor or sponsoring
organisation than just seeking funding a
conference, per se. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But my apologies: In retrosepct I have gotten
far ahead of myself. First, do you think that
your organisation or the University will be able
to cover our travel from Granada and lodging for
the ?? two --three days of said conference ? If
not we can still arrange to meet you in Granada,
to at least exchange views and interests and
areas of future cooperation. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We will be retaining this email contact
(above) as we proceed through work in Guatemala
and Nicaragua, so that we can stay in touch as
our prospective meetup occurs. </div>
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<div>Ok I await your thoughts and thanks again for
considering us in your own work. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Richard Stanley</div>
<div><a href="http://www.legacyfound.org/" target="_blank">www.legacyfound.org</a></div>
<div>Ashland Oregon</div>
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<div>On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Evan
Marks wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Richard,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I saw your message regarding your
interest in potential collaborators in
Nicaragua on the Stoves listserv some
time ago. We are aware of the Legacy
Foundation's work and find it very
interesting, though we have little
theoretical and no practical
experience with the subject. We
(myself and one other person) will be
in Estelí, Nicaragua for a number of
months beginning in Nov. to carry out
a collaborative stove design project
with the university extension there.
Given your inviting message, we
thought it would be opportune to
introduce ourselves. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Additionally, we wanted to propose
the possibility of working with you to
plan a workshop within the context of
the university. Let us know if this
activity would interest you and your
colleagues. I know from your website
that at times the Foundation charges
for such activities, though I will
tell you in advance that unfortunately
we don't have any funds available for
this, but we would be very delighted
if this was something you were willing
to participate in on a volunteer
basis. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Whether or not the above will be
possible, we do hope to meet you in
Nicaragua, we have lots of
questions! Do you know yet where you
will be based for the winter? Do you
already have experiences in
Nicaragua? Do you have a sense of
what are the most promising
briquettemaking feedstocks in the
region? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Look forward to your reply, yours
truly,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
-- <br>
<div dir="ltr">Evan Marks, Ph.D.<br>
Grup de Protecció i Restauració de
Sols<br>
Centre de Recerca Ecològica i
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Spain<br>
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Grup de Protecció i Restauració de Sols<br>
Centre de Recerca Ecològica i d'Aplicacions Forestals<br>
Edifici C, Campus de la UAB<br>
08193, Bellaterra (Cerdanyola del Vallès)<br>
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