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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear Paul And All<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I second the general approach which is to broaden the footprint of the topics and to ‘keep it current’. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The idea about testing methods is interesting. There are different hoops one might have to jump through depending on where you are in the world. Test methods are always local and producers often do not know what to expect. In addition many countries are developing new methods, rubber stamping old ones without review, and responding to the attention being brought to the issues of emissions and multiple fuels.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Separately, Mongolia has one of the largest stove programmes in the world and it has not really received the attention it deserves. The three main elements of social research (being extended in a couple of months), test methods and how test results are applied, and the product range currently being promoted (almost all TLUD’s). It is a $45m stove project (so far plus current budget). On top of that it is working pretty well. The social science side of stove product identification is receiving much more attention (see the GACC call for products in Ghana) and there is much to learn from our social scientist friends.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>And of course marketing successes generated by….? I am not even sure we have a clue how the marketing methods are identified.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks<br>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Stovers,<br><br>The ETHOS 2014 meeting will cover the topics that we want, and Mark has asked for additional suggestions.<br><br>The original 5 topics that are proposed are:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Update on the Global Alliance and their activities<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Standardizing Reporting on IWA Indicators<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Stove Performance Inventory, Sharing Public Data, and Establishing Common Data Formats<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Update on ISO Process<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Updates on Protocol Developments<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br>In my opinion, the 5 proposed discussion topics are fine, but are too restricted to the agenda of the GACC. <br><br>Please add ones on:<br> Stove technology and design (NEW, not a rehash of what exists)<br> <b><u>Proven</u></b> dissemination and acceptance of stoves: results from the field (This is NOT "The story of my NGO or project.")<br><br> And some panels and maybe some "short reports sessions" (4 minutes maximum per speaker) that have a common theme and then PLUS open discussion/debate that gets to the real issues.<br><br>For SOME attendees, the topic of "Charcoal producing stoves and related biochar issues" is of major interest and will draw in some additional participants. But this is NOT a biochar conference with reports on impact on soils and plants.<br><br>Recommendation: Attend if you can!!!!!! I have attended every ETHOS since 2004, and the content and importance is getting stronger and stronger. 48 intensive hours. And opportunities for side meetings with like-minded people from around the world are extremely beneficial. Registration info and link is below in Mark's message.<br><br>And there could be some possibilities for some PRE conference and/or POST conference meetings and workshops, but none are announced yet that I know.<br><br>Paul <br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>