<p>Because the soap and cosmetics manufacturers need specific fatty acids, separating fatty acids from non-edible oils and animal fats is a thriving industry in India, This process leaves glycerine behind. I do not know what glycerine is used for, but if it is available at a moderate price of about US Cents 50 per kg, one might consider it as one of the liquid fuels Crystalline sugar is also available in India at about the same price. It melts at a moderate temperature of about 100C. Has anybody tried it?</p>
<div>Yours A.D.Karve</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:large" dir="ltr" class="gmail_default">Project Gaia have demonstrated to me an efficient ethanol cookstove and also an ethanol lamp, and I have seeing here ethanol power generators in operation.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:large" dir="ltr" class="gmail_default">Here in Brazil ethanol produced at farm level can be around US$ 0,50 per liter</div>
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<div> 1. I write to disagree with your conclusion on fossil fuels. They are best (in several senses, not including being cheaper) mainly because their externality costs are borne by all of society.</div>
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<div> 2. I was surprised at first to see this view attributed to the NY Times. This was the view of Bjorne Lomborg who claims not to be a climate skeptic - but sure writes like one.</div>
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<div> 3. I do agree that kerosene has many advantages to go with their disadvantages. A way to move to a majority of advantages is to call for liquid fuels rather than fossil fuels. These can have a biomass origin, and (especially in rural areas) can also be cheaper.</div>
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<div>On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:23 PM, nari phaltan <<a href="mailto:nariphaltan@gmail.com" target="_blank">nariphaltan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div>
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<div style="COLOR:rgb(7,55,99);FONT-SIZE:large">A recent NYT article echoes what we have observed while working with rural poor in India - they need excellent and convenient fuel for cooking and lighting. Sometimes fossil fuels are the best. <a href="http://www.nariphaltan.org/kerosene.pdf" target="_blank">www.nariphaltan.org/kerosene.pdf</a> </div>
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<div style="COLOR:rgb(7,55,99);FONT-SIZE:large">Here is the NYT article; <a style="FONT-SIZE:small" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/04/opinion/the-poor-need-cheap-fossil-fuels.html?hp&rref=opinion" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/04/opinion/the-poor-need-cheap-fossil-fuels.html?hp&rref=opinion<br>
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<div style="COLOR:rgb(7,55,99);FONT-SIZE:large"><span style="COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);FONT-SIZE:small">Cheers.</span></div>
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<div style="COLOR:rgb(7,55,99);FONT-SIZE:large"><span style="COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);FONT-SIZE:small">Anil</span></div>
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