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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Please be careful when discussing what the offer is. I do not want to conflate our public discussions with an official call for technology proposals.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>></span>This below looks like what you have been talking about on this list. Thanks for sending it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, I have been proving some hints so people are ready to assist the project. This is an unusual request for proposals in that it includes a funding opportunity for vendors (a subsidy) that is for a device which does not yet exist. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is my hope that other stove programmes will first survey the community, as the WB-CSI Indonesian programme has done, to find out what people will appreciate before asking for ‘improved stoves’. It is only ‘improved’ if people think it is and want to own it. Often what they ask for is not available in the market.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span>I interpret what I read that there will be no reporting of charcoal production, or accounting for it in an efficiency calculation, under normal testing. Correct?<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All biomass consumption for domestic use in Central Java is considered to be from sustainable resources. For that reason, it is not necessary to ‘save fuel’ in the sense that a CDM credit can be gained. This is an important aspect of this particular region. The UNFCCC rules are relevant in this regard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The request of the government is that the prime measurements are to be overall thermal efficiency as determined by the consumption of raw fuel necessary to complete a burn cycle, considering the re-use of fuel remaining after the previous identical cycle. The definition of ‘fuel consumption’ is in the document, is carefully worded and has been reviewed. Other metrics are PM and CO emissions plus a safety review, which is informed by comments received by the community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>During the standard test, there is no requirement to measure the mass of charcoal remaining, but there <i>is</i> a requirement to measure the mass of reusable fuel that can be put into the same device for the next identical burn cycle. That may or may not include char. This partly addresses your concern about quantifying the amount of char produced, but is not completely congruent with your desire to have the char, its energy content and mass produced per cycle. The test requires that the overall or ‘net’ fuel consumption per cycle be determined.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you would like to know the mass of char (without the energy content) you could ask that it be reported and the lab will probably include it as a favour. We are all aware of developments in this field. The determination of the energy content would require additional expense so there would be a charge applied. As the testing is presently being done free (if authorised by the government after they select products of interest) the additional fee could be arranged with the testing lab. This would be considerably cheaper than asking for the whole test to be done privately.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span>You indicated some weeks ago that charcoal-making stoves (maybe water heaters) could be treated differently, if the stove promoter requested that. I don’t see any such invitation in what you sent. Is the offer still open?<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is such a provision in an alternative draft National Standard for Biomass Stoves but the current (final) version did not include it, being approximately the Dec 2012 draft version which was ratified recently. That will be, in all likelihood, completely reviewed at the end of this year. At that time many refinements will be made. The current final version references the SeTAR Thermal Efficiency Test (TET 1.55) which is a sustained high power heat transfer efficiency calculation, not a fuel efficiency calculation. Unfortunately the UNFCCC method II-G assumes that the heat transfer efficiency is the same thing as the fuel consumption which has caused considerable misdirection in the stove community and some very disappointing field results. The UNFCCC document needs to be updated. While there is in the text clear indication that they indent the relative performance to be the relative fuel consumption, the test methods references do not provide it which is a major shortcoming.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The current offer is from the WB-CSI Pilot project which is piloting the finance method and the test method to go with it. Undoubtedly there will be several changes. One thing we do not know is what the quality of products offered will be like and therefore even the subsidy level might be adjusted. This is all in anticipation of success of the pilot and the creation of a much larger national improved biomass stove programme.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For your interest, the test method was circulated to half a dozen significant technical figures in the stove testing community for comment and correction. The final result is interesting to say the least. We are proceeding with a very simple combination of two popular cooking tasks from the target area. It is important to consider something Christoph Messinger said at the ISO meeting which is that while performance tiers are attractive and valuable, it is likely that projects promoting stoves will want to weight various performance factors differently to select stoves that address problems that particular community faces. If the community is not interested in fuel savings, then the fuel saving aspect of a stove can be down-rated in importance.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is anticipated that the CSI-WBT (which might emerge as the CSI-WHT or water heating test) might be conducted with the inclusion of 3 or 5 relevant cooking tasks each weighted for frequency in that community, thus producing a Technical Test that is more representative of actual use. In the case of Central Java, it is not a single meal proxy but a breakfast burn cycle at mostly high power, including boiling some water, and a supper cycle cooking chicken in coconut milk which requires quite low power for a long time. Any stove which can be controlled in this manner will find acceptance in the community (on that score).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>WB-CSI Indonesia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>++++++++<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear Manufacturers and Vendors of Improved Cooking Stoves<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There was a RFTP (Request for Technology Proposals) issued by the Government of Indonesia seeking improved stoves for Central Java Province.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The relevant document is available in English and Bahasa Indonesia at:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/Call_for_Clean_Stove_Technology_for_Testing.pdf"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/Call_for_Clean_Stove_Technology_for_Testing.pdf</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The test method that will be applied is at:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/CSI_Indonesia_Test_Methods_2014-1-14_v7.pdf"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/CSI_Indonesia_Test_Methods_2014-1-14_v7.pdf</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There are important documents explaining what Results Based Financing is and several other very useful items that would form the basis of interesting discussions here on the Stoves List.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>See<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/en/page/60/Report-and-Publication.html"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://tungkuindonesia.org/en/page/60/Report-and-Publication.html</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>for the whole list. The two above are items 8 and 6 respectively.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If you are interested you can join the Indonesia Stove Alliance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attention Stove Testers and Regulators:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>For those involved in stove performance testing, the CSI-WBT method that will be applied during the product selection process may be of great interest. It is not like any method you will have seen before and offers a common framework for testing in every community, on every stove, with every fuel, every pot and every cooking style. The test results are particular to the community in which the stoves are to be used. Performance is measured against a local baseline.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The basics of it are described in the “Test Method” document. Not every detail is provided in that concise version but there is a Laboratory Manual and spreadsheets that do for those with a need for them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attention Social Scientists and Programme Managers:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The cooking tasks selected for performance rating have been determined during carefully conducted field assessments allowing for a characterisation of the behaviour of people in the target market. Rather than evaluating the impact of a stove technology during roll-out or after is has been completed, the product performance list is developed on the basis of expressed desires, aspirational features, product suitability and the programme goals of the government and financing institutions. During this preliminary phase many preconceptions were validated or dismissed and the customer’s actual cooking behaviours captured accurately enough to create a predictive performance test. This approach has shaped both the target performance benchmarks and the evaluation method.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attention Water Boilers:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If you have a stove product that can be operated with no attention after lighting, such as a TLUD gasifier, please note that there is a new product type requested which is a dedicated water boiler. This is not a cooking stove, it is only for boiling water. This common task is done in many modern kitchens using a kettle. It is a call for a biomass-fired kettle.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The efficiency requirement is much high than for a cooking stove because it is a dedicated appliance. See the documents for details. If you have a device that can efficiently bring at least 5 litres of water to a boil without any attention after lighting, maintain the boil briefly to assure the temperature was reached, then shut off, you may have a winner. Eight mm diameter wood pellets are considered ‘available’ even if at this time there is no systematic supply in most communities. However it is intended that they will be if there is a market for them. Processed biomass and agri-waste may be your choice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This type of device can be called a ‘fuel, fire and forget’ or F<sup>3</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>appliance. It is an exciting opportunity for inventors and manufacturers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attention Product Developers:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There is considerable manufacturing capacity in Indonesia. See the document 2 on the list:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/kasus_kompor_biomassa_bersih_(eng).pdf"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/kasus_kompor_biomassa_bersih_(eng).pdf</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>for information on how to connect with the business community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best regards to all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>Crispin Pemberton-Pigott</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>International Technical Consultant</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>World Bank Clean Stove Initiative – Indonesia</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><a href="mailto:crispin@newdawn.sz"><span style='color:#954F72'>crispin@newdawn.sz</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>BBM 2B567CC7</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>