<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Crispin, cc list</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This below looks like what you have been talking about on this list. Thanks for sending it.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I interpret what I read that there will be no reporting of charcoal production, or accounting for it in an efficiency calculation, under normal testing. Correct?</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>You indicated some weeks ago that charcoal-making stoves (maybe water heaters) could be treated differently, if the stove promoter requested that. I don’t see any such invitation in what you sent. Is the offer still open?</div><div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:12 AM, Crispin Pembert-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-CA" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear Manufacturers and Vendors of Improved Cooking Stoves<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">There was a RFTP (Request for Technology Proposals) issued by the Government of Indonesia seeking improved stoves for Central Java Province.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The relevant document is available in English and Bahasa Indonesia at:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/Call_for_Clean_Stove_Technology_for_Testing.pdf" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/Call_for_Clean_Stove_Technology_for_Testing.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The test method that will be applied is at:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/CSI_Indonesia_Test_Methods_2014-1-14_v7.pdf" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/CSI_Indonesia_Test_Methods_2014-1-14_v7.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">There are important documents explaining what Results Based Financing is and several other very useful items that would form the basis of interesting discussions here on the Stoves List.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">See<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/en/page/60/Report-and-Publication.html" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">http://tungkuindonesia.org/en/page/60/Report-and-Publication.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for the whole list. The two above are items 8 and 6 respectively.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If you are interested you can join the Indonesia Stove Alliance.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Attention Stove Testers and Regulators:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">For those involved in stove performance testing, the CSI-WBT method that will be applied during the product selection process may be of great interest. It is not like any method you will have seen before and offers a common framework for testing in every community, on every stove, with every fuel, every pot and every cooking style. The test results are particular to the community in which the stoves are to be used. Performance is measured against a local baseline.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The basics of it are described in the “Test Method” document. Not every detail is provided in that concise version but there is a Laboratory Manual and spreadsheets that do for those with a need for them.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Attention Social Scientists and Programme Managers:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The cooking tasks selected for performance rating have been determined during carefully conducted field assessments allowing for a characterisation of the behaviour of people in the target market. Rather than evaluating the impact of a stove technology during roll-out or after is has been completed, the product performance list is developed on the basis of expressed desires, aspirational features, product suitability and the programme goals of the government and financing institutions. During this preliminary phase many preconceptions were validated or dismissed and the customer’s actual cooking behaviours captured accurately enough to create a predictive performance test. This approach has shaped both the target performance benchmarks and the evaluation method.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Attention Water Boilers:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If you have a stove product that can be operated with no attention after lighting, such as a TLUD gasifier, please note that there is a new product type requested which is a dedicated water boiler. This is not a cooking stove, it is only for boiling water. This common task is done in many modern kitchens using a kettle. It is a call for a biomass-fired kettle.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The efficiency requirement is much high than for a cooking stove because it is a dedicated appliance. See the documents for details. If you have a device that can efficiently bring at least 5 litres of water to a boil without any attention after lighting, maintain the boil briefly to assure the temperature was reached, then shut off, you may have a winner. Eight mm diameter wood pellets are considered ‘available’ even if at this time there is no systematic supply in most communities. However it is intended that they will be if there is a market for them. Processed biomass and agri-waste may be your choice.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This type of device can be called a ‘fuel, fire and forget’ or F<sup>3</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>appliance. It is an exciting opportunity for inventors and manufacturers.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Attention Product Developers:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">There is considerable manufacturing capacity in Indonesia. See the document 2 on the list:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/kasus_kompor_biomassa_bersih_(eng).pdf" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/kasus_kompor_biomassa_bersih_(eng).pdf</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">for information on how to connect with the business community.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Best regards to all<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Crispin<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">Crispin Pemberton-Pigott<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">International Technical Consultant<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">World Bank Clean Stove Initiative – Indonesia<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;"><a href="mailto:crispin@newdawn.sz" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">crispin@newdawn.sz</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">BBM 2B567CC7<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</a></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>