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</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: NO-BOK;">Dear Dieter,<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: NO-BOK;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">I am
very much aware of the baskets for hot storage.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Low
income households are not entitled to the luxury to plan their cooking, hours
and days ahead.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Meat or
beef (“Relish”) are expensive and hard to find.<o:p></o:p></span><BR><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">As far
as I know, in most part of southern Africa, these households among others, use
some kind of a “porridge” made from corns (Maize).<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">That one
has to be eaten right after preparation or it will turn into “cement”, just
like potato mash.<o:p></o:p></span><BR><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">In
Zambia (and many other African countries), they used it daily as the staple
food source, called Nzima.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">No
access to a fridge or freezers, and occasionally just “fresh” meat. <o:p></o:p></span><BR><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">They
also need to utilize the daylight for work in the fields, also collecting water
and firewood.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">After
dark its time for cooking, that’s the fact.<o:p></o:p></span><BR><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">You
hardly find people “outdoor” after dark, apart from illegal charcoal producers
and poachers.<o:p></o:p></span><BR><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">The daily
routine is not addressed by the clock, but actually by the sunrise and sunset.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Just
what we were doing in Norway, a hundred years ago……before electricity and tap
water.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"></span><BR><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Have you
ever stayed in a village and listen to the hens start “calling”, just before
sunrise and life begin to become active again? <o:p></o:p></span><BR><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"></span><BR><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">May be
in a refugee camp, you can find differences from this pattern, but that’s not a
“normal” situation.<o:p></o:p></span><BR><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">All the
best<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><BR><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Otto<o:p></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 14:08:01 +0200<br>From: doseifert@googlemail.com<br>To: stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>Subject: [Stoves] solar cooking in time Re: Others may know this but it new to me WILSON SOLARCOOKER<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 10pt;'>Dear Otto
and list,</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 10pt;'> </span></p>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">The answer to Paal’s question "What shall you do With a solar cooker, when the sun set and People like to have their warm supper
after a long day in the fields?" is very simple: The meal was prepared in the time when the sun was shining, than the pots
were transferred to hay boxes/hay baskets and all is ready and warm for eating just when people arrive (described e.g. in the book "Fireless Cookery" Seattle 1981)
In the case of cooking with firewood instead of that, the meal has to be cooked and people have to wait hungry or they have to collect firewood. </span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US"> </span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">In 2011 my wife noted the number of days she cooked with our parabolic cooker (Alsol 1.4) with 1.4 m reflector diameter.
On 157 days she cooked all meals of the day, she baked and made conserves and she did not touch her electric stove in the kitchen,
because solar cooking in the garden gives more pleasure, needs less attention etc. In regions with scarcity of firewood
there is regularly more sunshine per year than here in Upper Bavaria.</span></pre>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I think that
traditions (also e.g. that
the rice has to taste of smoke etc.) should be abandoned
before the last tree disappeared.</span></p>
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With best wishes<br>
Dieter<br>
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Am 14.05.2014 21:35, schrieb Otto Formo:<br>
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<pre>Michael N,
There are a lot of good ideas out there, but if they are not put into practice or action, what`s the point.....................?
I was very dissapointed to find out that this was a "scam" and fake in broad daylight.
Like Paal used to say:
"What shall you do With a solarcooker, when the sun set and People like to have their warm supper after a long day in the fields?"
YES, that could have been solved by the Wilson Solar Cooker.
Now, the only Mr. Wilson, I will remember from the US, is the nighbour to Dennis..........that`s all.........:)
May be that`s the best way too.
Otto
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