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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I posted a copy of Gustavo's video to http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- Erin <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Anderson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br><b>Subject:</b> [Stoves] Fwd: TLUD under plancha Up-date from Gustavo in El Salvador<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>-------- Original Message -------- <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>Subject: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>TLUD under plancha Up-date from Gustavo in El Salvador<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>Date: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Tue, 27 May 2014 12:04:20 -0500<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>From: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Paul Anderson <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><psanders@ilstu.edu></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b>To: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Inversiones Falcon <a href="mailto:invfalcones53@yahoo.com"><invfalcones53@yahoo.com></a>, Harry Ha <a href="mailto:harryha@sympatico.ca"><harryha@sympatico.ca></a>, Thong - Haiti EmailUser Ameripham <a href="mailto:ameripham@click1.net"><ameripham@click1.net></a>, Peter Schild - El Salvador <a href="mailto:peter.schild.mittelamerika@gmail.com"><peter.schild.mittelamerika@gmail.com></a>, Bob Fairchild <a href="mailto:solarbobky@yahoo.com"><solarbobky@yahoo.com></a>, <a href="mailto:art.donnelly@seachar.org">"art.donnelly@seachar.org"</a> <a href="mailto:art.donnelly@seachar.org"><art.donnelly@seachar.org></a>, Jon Anderson <a href="mailto:jonnygms@gmail.com"><jonnygms@gmail.com></a>, CHRISTA ROTH <a href="mailto:christa-roth@foodandfuel.info"><christa-roth@foodandfuel.info></a>, Biochar Yahoo Group <a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com"><biochar@yahoogroups.com></a>, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <a href="mailto:crispinpigott@gmail.com"><crispinpigott@gmail.com></a>, "Ronal W. Larson" <a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net"><rongretlarson@comcast.net></a>, Tom Miles <a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com"><tmiles@trmiles.com></a>, Discussion of Biomass Cooking Stoves <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org"><stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org></a>, Hugh McLaughlin <a href="mailto:wastemin1@verizon.net"><wastemin1@verizon.net></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear all, especially Frank and Crispin and Tom / Erin,<br><br>Gustavo has presented a very nice video of the use of a tall TLUD gasifier under a DUAL purpose stove frame (frame = stove structure without the heat source) that first boiled 5 liters of water in 12 minutes, and then converted into a plancha stove with chimney, cooking papusas (related to tortillas). Total cooking time 1 hour 45 minutes on one batch of wood chips/chunks (5237 grams) that yielded 1300 g of char. 25% weight yield of char. Probably could have operated an additional 10 minutes with pyrolysis fire and a slightly lower percentage yield of char.<br><br>You who are on the Biochar and on the Stoves Listservs have not seen this 10 minute mp4 video because it is 9.4 MB. I am sure that Tom and Erin will make it available via the Websites and send the link. And I will try to have it soon of <a href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a><br><br>Note: That is approximately 4000 g of fuel of pyrolytic gases (including moisture content that was probably near 15%). Any ash content (probably 1% of the raw fuel) remained in the char.<br><br>With the above information, the folks who are strong with number (Crispin, Frank, Tom and others) can calculate many important values such as <br><br>A. energy released [[ I think it is about 10 to 12 MJ per kg of gases, so that is about 40 to 48 MJ released, with about 16 to 30 MJ of energy remaining in the char. This relates to a side discussion about the value / amount of the energy in the gases vs. in the char when TLUD stoves operate to completion of a batch of fuel (so there is no need to separate out any un-pyrolyzed fuel). MANY variables, so the numbers are still quite approximate. ]]<br><br>B. average fire power over the time of the batch: Using 44 MJ released in 1.75 hours, that is 25 MJ per hour, which is a 7 kW fire. That matches well with the 12 minutes to boil 5 liters.<br><br>Sorry if you have not seen the video yet, but it will be available via websites as soon as possible.<br><br>Gustavo, WELL DONE for this initial experience. This all bodes well for the future of TLUD thermal power into so many types of plancha stoves. <br><br>Paul<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal>On 5/27/2014 9:05 AM, Inversiones Falcon wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Dear Paul I have been working on our project, but only now I found the way to send you a good video. We can adjust any TLUD to all our frames (even designing new model for street vendors). I would like to tried to make an oven but at this moment I`m short of budget for something like this. Please send comments on this video.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Best Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Gus<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>