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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Google changed their algorithms again, so it's important to tweak your search a few times before writing something off as gone, and double check with the global alliance for clean cookstoves. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wonder if New World Energy is still doing something with Jatropha?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>http://www.newwrldenergy.com/news.html<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>but, it seems like the internets are not as excited about Jatropha oil as they were a few years ago. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- Erin Rasmussen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>erin@trmiles.com <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Crispin Pemberton-Pigott<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 02, 2014 11:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Kakute stove<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ooh... very useful. I am loading some stove pics and descriptions on the CSI website and am looking for any material from any country anyone would like to offer 'freely' for the purpose of education and elucidation. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you (or anyone) wants to contribute such historical and educational material please create an account at Collaboration 4 development and go to the Cleaner Stove Initiative section which is on the main page with a bright green background. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Within the CSI section go to the relevant project, in this case 'Stove Products' and post the files with comments. At the bottom of the Upload page (which you access with 'Actions') there is a place at the bottom to pick a country where the activity is or was taking place. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is a CMS (content management system) that takes getting used to so when in doubt click on the file path above the title (formally called the bread crumb trail) and click 'Content' near the top. This shows the folders. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please tag documents and photos. In this case having all the attempts to create a Jatropha oil burning stove should be tagged with at least 'Jatropha' so it will show up in a search on that topic. Reading of the problems Kakute had highlights fuel oil quality as a major problem, specifically viscosity. Very interesting. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I hoped the Protos stove would succeed. Maybe they need a newer burner design. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Crispin <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;background:white;border-spacing:0px'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial'><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in' id="_persistentHeader"><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Robert Taylor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Monday, June 2, 2014 11:51<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Reply To: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Re: [Stoves] Kakute stove<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Hi Crispin</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>The Kakute is one of three plant oil stoves listed on the website:</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/taxonomy/term/715"><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/taxonomy/term/715</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>The second is the Protos. BSH abandoned the project in 2012, but have put comprehensive information online:</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA><a href="http://www.bsh-group.com/index.php?109906"><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue'>http://www.bsh-group.com/index.php?109906</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>The third is the Aristo from the Dominican Republic. None of the links I tried to follow after googling it yielded any more information than is on the stoves list website.</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Regards</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Robert</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'> <a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" title="crispinpigott@outlook.com">Crispin Pemberton-Pigott</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'>To:</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'> <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'> Monday, June 02, 2014 8:27 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif"'> Re: [Stoves] Kakute stove<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Robert</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'>It sounds like the answer is no one. </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'>This seems to be one of the sincere but ultimate not very successful attempts to burn Jatropha oil and the link to this list (which I did not know about) has an interesting factoid. The uneven viscosity of the oil produced seems to have been a major factor in not being able to get the stove to work well, or shall I saw, at a consistent power.</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'>I would think that such a problem would be solved by a professional fuel processing service. Simple as that. Unpredictable fuel is the bane of liquid stoves. They only really work well with a completely predictable fuel. With a solid biomass fuel at least the operator can make changes moment by moment to get the performance they want. </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Crispin</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Hi Crispin</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>A little googling:</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/kakutestove"><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/kakutestove</span></a></span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://www.kakute.org"><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>http://www.kakute.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kakute-Ltd/217839398273209"><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kakute-Ltd/217839398273209</span></a></span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>It rather looks as if "where was it going to be made" would be more apposite.</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>HTH</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Robert Taylor</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"PMingLiU","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA>Dear Friends<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA>Where is the Kakute Stove made?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA>Thanks<br>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span lang=EN-CA><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span lang=EN-CA>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>