<div>Dear Crispin,</div>
<div>I have now retired from my job as head of Appropriate Rural Technology Institute, but three years ago, while I still served this Institute, US$300 was what I used to get as my monthly salary. I paid income tax on this income and belonged therefore to the richest 2% in the country. That is why I said that US$10 per day per family was quite a good income. <br>
Yours</div>
<div>A.D.Karve<br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);WIDTH:100%;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">Dear AD</div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);WIDTH:100%;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">Cecil is not here to comment so I will report that the value the average rural family gets from the environment is much more than the cash income of one or two dollars a day. </div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);WIDTH:100%;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">From this flow two things: moving a rural family to an urban conurbation at the same salary, or even double, deepens their poverty; and the cost of stabilising a family in a city is 5 times the cost of stabilising them in a rural area. </div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);WIDTH:100%;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)"> Stabilising, he says, means a house, job, water, roads, school, health care and fuel. </div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">The reduction of 'poverty' to a metric of cash income can hide massive differences in real world living standard. </div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">So far I haven't seen a metric that is suitable for measuring 'living standard'. </div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards </div>
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<div><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:43</div>
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<div>Dear Stovers,<br>US$2 per day per person means about US$10 per family of 5. That is<br>good income in any developing country.<br>Yours<br>A.D.Karve<br><br>On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Kevin <<a href="mailto:kchisholm@ca.inter.net" target="_blank">kchisholm@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> This video Clip<br>> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LPjzfGChGlE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/embed/LPjzfGChGlE</a><br>> is about US Immigration Policy.<br>><br>> World population is about 7.2 billion people (<br>
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population</a> )<br>><br>> The Video Clip states that about 3 billion people earn an average of LESS<br>
> than $2 per day. Expressed in different terms, 41.6% of the World Population<br>> earns less than $2 per day.<br>><br>> This brings up 2 interesting questions:<br>><br>> 1: ===> What can biochar do for these people, and what would it have to<br>
> cost, to be affordable to them?<br>> 2: ===> What kind of stoves do these people really need, and how much must<br>> they be delivered for, in order for them to be a sensible investment?<br>><br>> Kevin<br>
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