<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Crispin,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">You are echoing what I have said for years. All fuels are dirty -it is the combustion that makes them clean. With good combustion kerosene becomes an excellent fuel. For those with other agenda it will always be a dirty fuel!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Just to refresh the memories I will suggest stovers to look at two articles. <a href="http://www.nariphaltan.org/kerosene.pdf">www.nariphaltan.org/kerosene.pdf</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font color="#073763" size="4"><a href="http://www.thebetterindia.com/16136/lamp-stove-solving-rural-india-biggest-problems-lanstove-grassroot-innovation/">http://www.thebetterindia.com/16136/lamp-stove-solving-rural-india-biggest-problems-lanstove-grassroot-innovation/</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font color="#073763" size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font color="#073763" size="4">Cheers.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font color="#073763" size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font color="#073763" size="4">Anil</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial">Dear AD</span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial">LPG is a wonderful fuel for those who can get it and pay for it. Because of cost, kerosene was heavily subsidised in Indonesia. It became so expensive when the price of oil was run up that the subsidy was literally bankrupting the country. They tried to raise the price and there were riots. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial">So they embarked on the only other viable plan: to switch their subsidy to LPG but at a lower level. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial">This was accomplished in a total of 4 years, I believe. Some 40 million stoves were given away. Recently Cecil Cook and the WB social science team led by Helen Carlsson discovered that 70% of the poor people 'cooking with wood' also used LPG at least part of the time. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Cecil found it is used for very particular tasks which fit the description you gave below - largely for quick cooking and reheating of food, making tea and when the pots should remain clean. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Problems emerged last year when the budget allocation for LPG and gasoline (which sells for $0.66 a litre) ran out long before year end. Same problem as before : rising energy prices. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Now that there is a determined effort to drive the international price of oil down, perhaps they get a reprieve for a while, but the fact remains, to give access to LPG it has to be subsidised. Otherwise they will use more wood. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">It is not a matter of one of the other, people use both, but the switch to wood is immediate if the price rises. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Globally there is a shortage of LPG. Thus pressure on the price will remain. Part of the price is a relatively expensive delivery cost as every aspect of it is regulated and has to be very safe. I say that with kerosene in mind which is far cheaper to distribute. It can also be loaned or sold to a neighbour on a small scale. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Both can be burned extremely cleanly so it is a disappointment to see the WHO refer to kerosene as a 'dirty fuel' in need of being removed from all homes. A stove that cannot burn it properly is the guilty party, not 'a fuel'. </span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Regards </span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Crispin </span></div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><br></span></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="line-height:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial">Dear List,</span></div><div><div>
I saw recently a lot of criticism against LPG. As cooking fuel, it is<br>
really superb, giving a blue flame without smoke or soot,<br>
instantaneous ignition, finger-tip control of flame intensity, no ash,<br>
etc. Being liquifiable, relatively large quantities of it can be<br>
filled into cylinders which occupy very little space in the kitchen.<br>
One can carry the cylinder around if the gas is needed elsewhere. I<br>
understand that LPG is a by product of petroleum refining and that one<br>
cannot avoid the production of LPG as long as we are using petroleum<br>
and refining it. So, if we stopped using it as cooking fuel, we shall<br>
have to find an alternative use for it.<br>
Yours<br>
A.D.Karve<br>
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Dr. A.D. Karve<br>
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Chairman, Samuchit Enviro Tech Pvt Ltd (<a href="http://www.samuchit.com" target="_blank">www.samuchit.com</a>)<br>
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Trustee & Founder President, Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI)<br>
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