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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Sorry Kirk, I'm not able to understand what you mean. I cannot properly translate your indications. Maybe you can explain in another way or attach a picture or drawing?<div>I do understand you mean keeping a long stick while loading fuel, and then putting it out, but I cannot understand specific way of doing this.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Marc<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: kgharris@sonic.net<br>To: stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:57:51 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] Challenging fuel<br><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Marc,</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Another idea. When I have had problems with
primary air resistance, air channels up through the fuel have worked.
These are formed by long slinder sticks or rods. They are attached to a
board at one end to form a comb like structure. Place the tips of the comb
on the grate and pour in the fuel. The stove may need to be shaken to
settle the fuel. Pull out the comb and the primary air channels are
formed. This has worked for me for tall fuel loads.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Kirk</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:41
AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Challenging
fuel</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Kirk and all,
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<div>It sounds good idea for too small pieces to be pyrolized. Definitely I'll
make some tests on it.</div>
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<div>Thanks to your comments and others, I'm realizing the need for screening
this fuel. Though I was trying the "minimum process" way, it seems to me now
that is absolutely necessary to screen this fuel, in order to reduce the size
variability and achive replicable results in TLUD's.</div>
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<div>Lack of primary air has been a constant with this fuel, which has led me
to design big primary air holes and high chimneys, just to get the correct air
supplie for gasification. It sure will be improved with the fuel
screening.</div>
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<div>I'll keep testing and posting (and reading)</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Marc</div>
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From: kgharris@sonic.net<br>To: stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>Date: Thu,
18 Dec 2014 00:41:23 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] Challenging fuel<br><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Marc and All,</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Was there not a post a month or two ago about
putting rice hulls or saw dust into a can with a hole in the top. This
then was put in the reactor with fuel around it. The heat
of the stove pyrolyzed the contents of the can and produced wood gas
which exited the hole and was burned in the secondary. I forget who
posted it and could not find the post, but it was a wonderful idea. I
tried this with saw dust and with pellets and both worked. The can
needs to be raised off the grate some so pyrolysis will finish
before the migratory pyrolysis front goes out or it smokes on and
on. A single screening of the almond hulls will seperate
the small pieces and dust out for use in the can, while the larger
pieces will be the outer fuel. This way the
small pieces are used without clogging the primary air
passage. Perhaps pieces that are too large could be used in
the can as well without having to chop them up. The can cannot
be to big or the power level is reduced. The can which worked
for me was .4 the diameter which is 1/6 the area of the
reactor.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Kirk</font></div>
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"@k.mx.sonic.net</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves'</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:21
PM</div>
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a picture of the fuel I'm trying to deal with.<br>This is the raw fuel as it
is normally sold here. They are almond husks.<br>As you see, it's sizes
varies from 1 to 40mm!<br><br>Maybe people can tell me how this can affect
the TLUD design</span></p>
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