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Rebecca and all Stovers,<br>
<br>
Again, a very nice video. This one shows more of the Whirly Pinay,
which to me it the "Star" of the video (but the food is truly
mouth-watering!!). The Whirly Pinay is a TLUD stove made of
ceramic. The best ceramic TLUD that I have seen. <br>
<br>
1. I would like more more info about that stove. I am not a
mud/ceramics person, so even basic info is important. Jon and Flip
can better analyze the stove making info. Things like clay types,
thicknesses, firing temperatures, breakage issues, etc.<br>
<br>
2. I am impressed by the sizes of the pots that are supported on
the Whirly Pinay. Because of my lack of experience with
clay/ceramic, I worry about the lower pottery breaking and dumping
off the full hot pot on the ground or the cooks. I therefore like
better the arrangement with the oven that is supported by three
walls.<br>
<br>
3. I would like some comments about the moving of the Whirly Pinay
TLUD into position under the supported oven (or supported pot). It
is heavier than the metal TLUDs, so maybe a sliding "tray" or shelf
would be easier to move? And does the pottery get hot on the
outside? Does it cool rapidly? <br>
<br>
4. In some ways it seems like a TChar combustion device, with the
intention to continue to cook with the charcoal (made by TLUD
pyrolysis) in the lower part.<br>
<br>
5. The reality that a TLUD makes heat that is sufficiently clean
DIRECT-heat baking in a "black oven" (emissions in contact with the
food, not separated by a heat-transfer wall in a "white oven") is an
important accomplishment that others (Jon and Flip and others) are
also finding to be beneficial. This needs to be more completely
documented and told to all stovers.<br>
<br>
Rebecca, your success with the COOKING (which is WHY we are all
making stoves) is wonderful !!!! You and Flip do magic. (The
guys mainly do heat.)<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
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Lakbay Aral Milagrosa, Feb 27, 2015</div>
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<div>Dear Paul, Ron, Jon & Stovers,</div>
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<div>Thank you Paul, Ron, Jon for your questions. I thought it
was best that I have completed the above video first and the
relevant links to the photo albums in Google+ and video clips
in youtube of the Whirly Pinay stoves used in cooking and in
baking with the Bingka Oven before responding to your emails.
Please have a look at the captioned photo albums -- I believe
some of your questions will be answered there and//or you will
have more questions. I am in Amsterdam at the moment but
quite able to reply to your emails. Thank you very Paul for
your email. I appreciate and share your enthusiasm for the
Whirly Pinay as poor Pinays can now bake untarnished bingkas
and many other delicacies using wood.</div>
<div>Rebecca </div>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: Fwd: Rebecca Vermeer sent you a video:
"Launching Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan,
Zamboanguita, Negros Or., PH, Dec 14-15, 2014"<br>
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To all Stovers,<br>
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I highly recommend that you watch Rebecca's video (10
minutes). It is:<br>
1. Very well made, fast paced, with nice music, and very
informative.<br>
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2. CAUTION: It will make you hungry!! Many views of
delicious food that was prepared with the Eco-Kalan and Bingka
Oven. <br>
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3. Rebecca's introductory comments (printed below) in this
message are not in the video, but will help you understand
what is being shown.<br>
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4. I am also absolutely thrilled by the addition of TLUD heat
sources under the Bingka Oven!!! The TLUDs are in two sizes,
and are made of clay/ceramic!! And they can be removed from
under the Bingka Oven (as should be the case), so any
appropriate sized TLUD could be inserted. I request that
Rebecca tell us more about the making of clay TLUDs and the
issues of cracking/breaking, how hot the sides became, and
about the weight (because they need to be picked up and moved
for refilling / replacement. <br>
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5. There are some views at the beginning showing the making
of the oven. A VERY NICE PRODUCT!!!! I am sure that Jon
and Flip can relate to the work it takes to make ovens. I
hope Rebecca will direct us to more information specifically
about making of the oven. <br>
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To Rebecca, CONGRATULATIONS on your very evident
success!!!!!!!!!!!<br>
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Paul <br>
<pre class="moz-signature">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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Eco-Kalan &
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SUMAPI Dumandan,
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Negros Or., PH,
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Eco-Kalan Project<br>
To Improve the
Health,
Environment and
Economics of Poor
Communities<br>
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March 30, 2015<br>
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Dear Friends,<br>
In the current
video, I share
with you the
exciting
developments from
the partnership
between the
Eco-Kalan Project
with the Negros
Oriental Visayan
Forum, the 79th
Infantry Battalion
and the 302nd
Infantry Brigade
of the Philippine
Army in a
livelihood program
based on the
Eco-Kalan and the
Bingka Oven.<br>
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Since the Oct. 4,
2014 demonstration
at Felipa Beach on
Cooking with the
Eco-Kalan and
Baking with the
Bingka Oven to
members of SUMAPI
Dumandan (<a
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and accomplished
the following:<br>
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On December 14
-15, 2014, the
Eco-Kalan Project
and its partners<br>
- set up an
Eco-Kalan-C
kitchen with
Bingka ovens fired
with wood and
coconut shell
charcoal and a
traditional oven
fired by wood for
comparison; and<br>
- officially
launch the
Eco-Kalan &
Bingka Oven as a
livelihood program
for SUMAPI
Dumandan under the
Visayan Forum's
umbrella.<br>
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In reviewing the
interviews with
SUMAPI members,
guests and
attendees at the
launching, I
learned about the
limitations in the
supply of coconut
shell charcoal;
restrictions in
the production and
supply of wood
charcoal; and the
seemingly
unavoidable smoke
when using wood as
fuel for the
Bingka oven. Smoke
during baking can
tarnish the
appearance and
taste of the baked
product making it
unmarketable.. And
yet, wood is most
often the fuel of
choice when
coconut shell or
wood charcoal are
not available or
when wood is free
for the picking.<br>
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I decided to make
a clay stove which
can function as a
TLUD (gasifier)
stove in phase 1
of the burn and as
a charcoal stove
in phase 2. That
gave rise to the
Whirly Pinay-S (2
kg wood capacity)
and the Whirly
Pinay-L (4 kg wood
capacity) based on
Kelpie Wilson's
tin can Whirly
Girl TLUD (Top Lit
Upward Draft)
stove. Our March
17, 2015 test runs
with the large
bingka oven using
firewood in the
improved Whirly
Pinay (longer
secondary air
slits) produced
clean, untarnished
bingkas in all the
4 batches. <br>
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On February 27,
2015 Lakbay Aral
(Educational
Tour),<br>
- the Eco-Kalan
Project hosted the
last of the school
year's Lakbay Aral
luncheon for 150
people. It was on
this occasion that
the Whirly Pinay-L
was used to cook
breakfast for over
30 people who
prepared the
luncheon. The
coming Lakbay Aral
video will include
cooking the
breakfast.<br>
- the Eco-Kalan
Project was
requested to
provide snack and
water for everyone
travelling back to
Milagrosa, Sta.
Catalina. I
challenged the
SUMAPI Dumandan
and Visayan
Forum's clients
from Ayungon to
bake 500 muffins
using 4 Bingka
ovens fired by
wood in the
Whirly-Pinay-S
stove; coconut
shell charcoal in
a small and large
Eco-Kalan stove;
and by LPG in a
gas burner. They
rose to the
challenge with
enthusiasm and
succeeded.<br>
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On March 8, 2015
Baking
Extravaganza,<br>
- the Eco-Kalan
team at Felipa
Beach and SUMAPI
Dumandan and
Ayungon Visayan
Forum clients
baked and ate to
their hearts'
content.<br>
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Warm regards,<br>
Rebecca Arrieta
Vermeer<br>
Eco-Kalan Project
in the Philippines</div>
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