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    Dear Crispin,<br>
    C.i.;<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.05.2015 00:41, Crispin
      Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Dear Dean</div>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Surely the
        combination of stove plus fuel are the main two determinants of
        emissions resulting from combustion?</div>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">If you have a
        fixed TLUD then you could search for the fuel it is best suited
        to. </div>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">If you have a
        fixed fuel, you could adjust the stove design until it burned
        best. The only thing I have failed to burn really cleanly is
        rubber. I think it needs a long residence time and so far stoves
        are too short. </div>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br>
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        'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align:
        initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">It would be
        pretty easy to torrify a batch of pellets. Heat them to 260 or
        so for a day. </div>
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    In a sealed container, or? (or o2 less environ)<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:COL401-EAS1307E7E0FFB84E6DB14B9D1B1CF0@phx.gbl"
      type="cite">Regards 
      <div>Crispin </div>
      <div><br>
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    <br>
    Greetings, wherever you are! :D<br>
    Now I'm really off to antiobioticstabletswallowing<br>
    Ron<br>
    <br>
    <br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Dear Ron,
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>We had three women interns here at the research center
              for a summer who found cleaner burning recipes for the
              TLUDs gathered from the surrounding forest. Some things
              like bark make smoke, etc.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Many pellets smoke when using eucalyptus, etc.
              Different mixtures of kerosene make more or less smoke in
              off the shelf stoves.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I'm wondering if torrified pellets will burn cleaner
              than normal pellets.</div>
            <div><br>
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            <div><br>
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            <div>Best,</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Dean</div>
          </div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:28 PM,
              Ronald Hongsermeier <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de"
                  target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Dean,<br>
                  I remember that there was a proposed university
                  program (W. Virginia or the Carolinas??) In view of
                  the deaths(not _many_ but tragic) that have taken
                  place due to off-loading of pellets at some European
                  ports (CO in the hold) The torrefaction could lead to
                  a more inert fuel. That's hopeful speculation on my
                  part however. You would be transporting some less
                  bound water and the energy density is better than
                  regular pellets in addition to the lack of liquid or
                  vapor H2O absorption issue mentioned before-- these
                  would lend efficiencies in the logistics end of things
                  and an even more uniform fuel than regular pellets,
                  which tend to absorb quite a  bit of water here in the
                  damp winter weather...<br>
                  I have to admit that I'm a bit puzzled as to what you
                  mean by cleaner fuel recipes. What specific pollutant
                  are you interested in or are you talking about
                  particulate?<br>
                  If you aren't choking the burn by putting the pot too
                  close, you should be getting a very clean burn with a
                  TLUD?!?<br>
                  <br>
                  regards,<br>
                  Ron<br>
                  <br>
                  <div>On 23.05.2015 22:01, Dean Still wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Hi Ronald,
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I'll keep looking. I think that we shouldn't
                        forget cleaner fuel recipes as part of the
                        solution.
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Best,</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Dean</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 23, 2015
                            at 12:33 PM, Ronald Hongsermeier <span
                              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de"
                                target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi
                                Dean,<br>
                                I did some searching around on the
                                internet several years ago on this
                                topic.<br>
                                I'd like to try torrefied stuff as well,
                                but I struck out at that time.<br>
                                No idea where to find them.<br>
                                The main advantage that I picked up on
                                at that time was that they should be
                                relatively inert as to picking up extra
                                water after they were pelletized.<br>
                                Cleaner burning than what?<br>
                                clean burning is a control issue, not a
                                fuel issue as far as I understand. If I
                                understand the concept correctly, it's
                                like using part of the large molecules
                                initially broken out (cracked) by the
                                heat in the reaction vessel to coat the
                                surfaces of the remaining unpyrolized
                                material. This should burn quite okay in
                                a TLUD.<br>
                                <br>
                                regards,<br>
                                Ronald von Nasennebenhöhlenhölle (but
                                I'm coming back)<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <div>On 23.05.2015 20:56, Dean Still
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hi All,
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I'd like to try torrified
                                      pellets in a TLUD under the
                                      emissions hood.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Any ideas on where to find
                                      them?</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Or if it should be cleaner
                                      burning?</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Best,</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Dean</div>
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