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Dear Dean, <br>
<br>
Here you say that the ladies observed no statistically relevant
results (in spite of trying, which seems to me a contradiction of
scientific method: you try hard only to observe parametric,
repeatable data and report how it either confirms or contradicts
predicted results, not strive for results themselves. A designer who
has an objective for a stove is hoping that a feature included in
the design will achieve a controlled effect that will tweak some
parameter of performance, but testing is just trying to report.) But
then further down you repeatedly state that fuel preparation is so
important: "With biomass the preparation including recipe, drying,
pellet size, etc. makes a big difference in emissions when trying to
get down to the very low levels needed to protect health." This is
much too simple.<br>
A stove will have design features that determine whether, with a
particular fuel (with variables: contained moisture, contained
minerals, contained biological composition, granularity, etc.) all
of that evil smoke can be combusted or not -- once the primary air
is done doing two things: providing it with O2 and moving by it and
thereby cooling the fuel and the resultant smoke to a degree. It's
very important to understand that enough _excess_ primary air will
cool both the fuel and the smoke which migrates with it further
through the stove to such a lower temperature, that the introduction
of secondary air will no longer sustain complete combustion. When
there is no complete combustion everything left over is bad one way
or another, but naturally there are degrees of incomplete
combustion.<br>
<br>
I see that you have responded to Alex on a question of his while I
was writing this, but I'll try to maintain thread coherency by
asking a follow-up question there.<br>
regards,<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25.05.2015 16:49, Dean Still wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Frank,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>They tried but the results did not achieve statistical
significance.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Dean</div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Frank
Shields <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com" target="_blank">franke@cruzio.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Dean,
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Did the three women interns doing the study of types
of fuels and their corresponding combustion qualities
come up with a final report? or planning to do so?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I would be very interested in seeing this if it
becomes available. I think this very important
information as a precursor to developing a series of
tests designed to determine if a fuel is suitable for a
specific stove or predicting problems when using. All
needed for BOX 1 of the six box system. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Frank</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
Frank Shields<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com" target="_blank">franke@cruzio.com</a><br>
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<div>On May 24, 2015, at 2:35 PM, alex english <<a
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href="mailto:aenglish444@gmail.com"
target="_blank">aenglish444@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Crispin,
<div>Here;</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://me.queensu.ca/People/Pollard/"
target="_blank">http://me.queensu.ca/People/Pollard/</a><br>
</div>
<div>Alex</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 24, 2015 at
5:31 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com"
target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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Dear Alex</div>
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Please put me in touch with the Queens
Prof. I would like to discuss fuel
particle shape. I have a long term plan
to make the heating stoves run on them.
The long term solution to zero PM
stoves. </div>
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Thanks</div>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">Crispin,
<div>A prof I know at Queens U.
wants to make torrified sphere
pellets that can be pumped with
water through pipelines, then
separated. </div>
<div>A scalable biomass energy
concept. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My comment to Dean related to
the only combustion
characteristic that would be
different with torrified
pellets from plane old wood
pellets.</div>
<div>Flammability limits that I
could test in my premix burner
TLUD. As Ronald has already
stated, differences I too doubt
would show up in other diffusion
TLUDs. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The fuel matters, the stove
matters, the price matters, the
meal/task matters, got it. I
won't blame or credit the fuel
alone, but charcoal really is
special :)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Alex</div>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:13
PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com"
target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear
Alex</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
major reason to
torrefy wood seems to
be that it stops
absorbing moisture
(mostly) and it weighs
less per MJ. The EU is
importing a lot of
pellets on this basis.
The UK has a power
station fired by them.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Regards</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Crispin</span></p>
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<p><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> Stoves
[mailto:<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>alex
english<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday,
May 24, 2015 14:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion
of biomass cooking
stoves<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Stoves] Torrified
Pellets</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p> </p>
<p>Torrified wood has
most of it's
volatiles. I would
expect the gases to
have a higher CV and
wider range of flame
stability when used
in a premix burner.
Just guessing this
has no relevance to
cooking stoves.<br>
Dean, what is the
range, cat pee best
to worst PM
emissions, that you
have measured from
any and all tluds
when burning dry
wood pellets?<br>
Alex</p>
<div>
<p>On 2015-05-24
1:53 PM, "Dean
Still" <<a
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href="mailto:deankstill@gmail.com" target="_blank">deankstill@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Dear Ronald,</p>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Thanks for
your helpful
comments.
Charcoal
without
remaining wood
in it doesn't
make smoke
but, of
course, wood
really likes
to smoke. With
biomass the
preparation
including
recipe,
drying, pellet
size, etc.
makes a big
difference in
emissions when
trying to get
down to the
very low
levels needed
to protect
health. I'm
making some
torrified
pellets and
will report
back after
testing under
the hood.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>All Best,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Dean</p>
<div>
<p> </p>
<div>
<p>On Sat, May
23, 2015 at
3:52 PM,
Ronald
Hongsermeier
<<a
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href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>>
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<p
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear
Dean,<br>
I may seem
like I'm
harping here,
but now that
you've said a
bit more,
you've
mentioned a
couple of
factors that I
have noticed
in my limited
experience
without a hood
and therefore
without
concrete
parametric
analysis, but
for which I
can give some
postulates.<br>
<br>
1. The
wood-gas stove
in design mode
depends on a
uniform fuel
"chunk-size"
which promotes
a level
"pyrolysis"
front(planar)
migrating
towards the
bottom of the
stove. If that
plane is
broken by
dis-uniformity
in the fuel or
overly large
gaps between
the fuel
pieces, you
will get a
spot drop in
temperature
along with
glowing fuel
which will
migrate
unevenly
towards the
bottom of the
stove,
breaking the
pyrolysis
front and
sometimes
dropping the
mean temp
inside the
burning
chamber such
that the
rising wood
gas will no
longer be
close enough
to critical
temp that the
onset of
2nd-ary air
will ignite
it.<br>
<br>
2. 1. would be
consistent
with the bark
observation.
Bark generally
has lots more
minerals and
less energy
per unit mass.
Did you/they
assure dryness
level of the
bark? Were the
pieces between
(cross-section/10-20)
of the stoves
throat? Do you
mean pellets
from
eucalyptus
wood or when
eucalyptus oil
is poured on
the fuel? Off
the shelf
kerosin
burners here
in germany are
strictly
regulated as
to what you
may or may not
burn in them.
If it is
smoking it is
either wrong
fuel, design
flaw or user
error.<br>
<br>
3. Pellets
pack closely,
so if they are
smoking,
usually the
problem can be
fixed by
either turning
up the fan a
bit or putting
some chimney
length between
the secondary
air and the
pan to
increase the
draw. (i.e.,
the primary
air is
probably not
of sufficient
pressure to
deliver enough
O2 to the
pyrolysis
front to keep
it hot enough
such that it
will ignite
upon contact
with the
secondary
air.)<br>
<br>
4. Because
torrefied
pellets are
partially
reacted, they
may be
somewhat less
dense and
especially
because the
ends will be
cleaner, they
may not resist
airflow as
much, which
may help
somewhat with
3. above. I
would expect
them to act
very similar
to dry
pellets,
except for the
difference in
density.<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Ronald von
Aftermidnighttimeforantibiotics
(and bed)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p>On
23.05.2015
23:49, Dean
Still wrote:</p>
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<p>Dear Ron, </p>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>We had
three women
interns here
at the
research
center for a
summer who
found cleaner
burning
recipes for
the TLUDs
gathered from
the
surrounding
forest. Some
things like
bark make
smoke, etc.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Many
pellets smoke
when using
eucalyptus,
etc. Different
mixtures of
kerosene make
more or less
smoke in off
the shelf
stoves.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I'm
wondering if
torrified
pellets will
burn cleaner
than normal
pellets.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Best,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Dean</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
<div>
<p>On Sat, May
23, 2015 at
1:28 PM,
Ronald
Hongsermeier
<<a
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href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>>
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<p
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
Dean,<br>
I remember
that there was
a proposed
university
program (W.
Virginia or
the
Carolinas??)
In view of the
deaths(not
_many_ but
tragic) that
have taken
place due to
off-loading of
pellets at
some European
ports (CO in
the hold) The
torrefaction
could lead to
a more inert
fuel. That's
hopeful
speculation on
my part
however. You
would be
transporting
some less
bound water
and the energy
density is
better than
regular
pellets in
addition to
the lack of
liquid or
vapor H2O
absorption
issue
mentioned
before-- these
would lend
efficiencies
in the
logistics end
of things and
an even more
uniform fuel
than regular
pellets, which
tend to absorb
quite a bit
of water here
in the damp
winter
weather...<br>
I have to
admit that I'm
a bit puzzled
as to what you
mean by
cleaner fuel
recipes. What
specific
pollutant are
you interested
in or are you
talking about
particulate?<br>
If you aren't
choking the
burn by
putting the
pot too close,
you should be
getting a very
clean burn
with a TLUD?!?<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Ron</p>
<div>
<p>On
23.05.2015
22:01, Dean
Still wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi Ronald,
</p>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I'll keep
looking. I
think that we
shouldn't
forget cleaner
fuel recipes
as part of the
solution.
</p>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Best,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Dean</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
<div>
<p>On Sat, May
23, 2015 at
12:33 PM,
Ronald
Hongsermeier
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>>
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<p
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
Dean,<br>
I did some
searching
around on the
internet
several years
ago on this
topic.<br>
I'd like to
try torrefied
stuff as well,
but I struck
out at that
time.<br>
No idea where
to find them.<br>
The main
advantage that
I picked up on
at that time
was that they
should be
relatively
inert as to
picking up
extra water
after they
were
pelletized.<br>
Cleaner
burning than
what?<br>
clean burning
is a control
issue, not a
fuel issue as
far as I
understand. If
I understand
the concept
correctly,
it's like
using part of
the large
molecules
initially
broken out
(cracked) by
the heat in
the reaction
vessel to coat
the surfaces
of the
remaining
unpyrolized
material. This
should burn
quite okay in
a TLUD.<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Ronald von
Nasennebenhöhlenhölle
(but I'm
coming back)<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p>On
23.05.2015
20:56, Dean
Still wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi All, </p>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I'd like to
try torrified
pellets in a
TLUD under the
emissions
hood.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Any ideas
on where to
find them?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Or if it
should be
cleaner
burning?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Best,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Dean</p>
</div>
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to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
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for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:
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