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    Dear Dean, <br>
    <br>
    Here you say that the ladies observed no statistically relevant
    results (in spite of trying, which seems to me a contradiction of
    scientific method: you try hard only to observe parametric,
    repeatable data and report how it either confirms or contradicts
    predicted results, not strive for results themselves. A designer who
    has an objective for a stove is hoping that a feature included in
    the design will achieve a controlled effect that will tweak some
    parameter of performance, but testing is just trying to report.) But
    then further down you repeatedly state that fuel preparation is so
    important: "With biomass the preparation including recipe, drying,
    pellet size, etc. makes a big difference in emissions when trying to
    get down to the very low levels needed to protect health." This is
    much too simple.<br>
    A stove will have design features that determine whether, with a
    particular fuel (with variables: contained moisture, contained
    minerals, contained biological composition, granularity, etc.) all
    of that evil smoke can be combusted or not -- once the primary air
    is done doing two things: providing it with O2 and moving by it and
    thereby cooling the fuel and the resultant smoke to a degree. It's
    very important to understand that enough _excess_ primary air will
    cool both the fuel and the smoke which migrates with it further
    through the stove to such a lower temperature, that the introduction
    of secondary air will no longer sustain complete combustion. When
    there is no complete combustion everything left over is bad one way
    or another, but naturally there are degrees of incomplete
    combustion.<br>
    <br>
    I see that you have responded to Alex on a question of his while I
    was writing this, but I'll try to maintain thread coherency by
    asking a follow-up question there.<br>
    regards,<br>
    Ron<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25.05.2015 16:49, Dean Still wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear Frank,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>They tried but the results did not achieve statistical
          significance.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Best,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Dean</div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Frank
          Shields <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com" target="_blank">franke@cruzio.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Dean,
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>Did the three women interns doing the study of types
                of fuels and their corresponding combustion qualities
                come up with a final report? or planning to do so?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I would be very interested in seeing this if it
                becomes available. I think this very important
                information as a precursor to developing a series of
                tests designed to determine if a fuel is suitable for a
                specific stove or predicting problems when using. All
                needed for BOX 1 of the six box system. </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Thanks</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Frank</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
                <div>
                  Frank Shields<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com" target="_blank">franke@cruzio.com</a><br>
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                    <div>On May 24, 2015, at 2:35 PM, alex english <<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:aenglish444@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">aenglish444@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Crispin,
                        <div>Here;</div>
                        <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://me.queensu.ca/People/Pollard/"
                            target="_blank">http://me.queensu.ca/People/Pollard/</a><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Alex</div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 24, 2015 at
                          5:31 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span
                            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com"
                              target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                                Dear Alex</div>
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                                Please put me in touch with the Queens
                                Prof. I would like to discuss fuel
                                particle shape. I have a long term plan
                                to make the heating stoves run on them.
                                The long term solution to zero PM
                                stoves. </div>
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                                Thanks</div>
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                                  <br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Crispin,
                                      <div>A prof I know at Queens U.
                                        wants to make torrified sphere
                                        pellets that can be pumped with
                                        water through pipelines, then
                                        separated. </div>
                                      <div>A scalable biomass energy
                                        concept. </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>My comment to Dean related to
                                        the only combustion
                                        characteristic that would be
                                        different  with torrified
                                        pellets from plane old wood
                                        pellets.</div>
                                      <div>Flammability limits that I
                                        could test in my premix burner
                                        TLUD.  As Ronald has already
                                        stated, differences I too doubt
                                        would show up in other diffusion
                                        TLUDs. <br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>The fuel matters, the stove
                                        matters, the price matters, the
                                        meal/task matters, got it. I
                                        won't blame or credit the fuel
                                        alone, but charcoal really is
                                        special :)</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Alex</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      <div>On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:13
                                        PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
                                        <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com"
                                            target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear
                                                  Alex</span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                                                  major reason to
                                                  torrefy wood seems to
                                                  be that it stops
                                                  absorbing moisture
                                                  (mostly) and it weighs
                                                  less per MJ. The EU is
                                                  importing a lot of
                                                  pellets on this basis.
                                                  The UK has a power
                                                  station fired by them.</span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Regards</span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Crispin</span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p><b><span
                                                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                                                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                                                  lang="EN-US"> Stoves
                                                  [mailto:<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
                                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>alex
                                                  english<br>
                                                  <b>Sent:</b> Sunday,
                                                  May 24, 2015 14:18<br>
                                                  <b>To:</b> Discussion
                                                  of biomass cooking
                                                  stoves<br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                                  [Stoves] Torrified
                                                  Pellets</span></p>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p> </p>
                                                  <p>Torrified wood has
                                                    most of it's
                                                    volatiles.  I would
                                                    expect the gases to
                                                    have a higher CV and
                                                    wider range of flame
                                                    stability when used
                                                    in a premix burner.
                                                    Just guessing this
                                                    has no relevance to
                                                    cooking stoves.<br>
                                                    Dean, what is the
                                                    range, cat pee best
                                                    to worst PM
                                                    emissions, that you
                                                    have measured from
                                                    any and all tluds
                                                    when burning dry
                                                    wood pellets?<br>
                                                    Alex</p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p>On 2015-05-24
                                                      1:53 PM, "Dean
                                                      Still" <<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:deankstill@gmail.com" target="_blank">deankstill@gmail.com</a>>
                                                      wrote:</p>
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                                                        <p>Dear Ronald,</p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
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                                                          <p>Thanks for
                                                          your helpful
                                                          comments.
                                                          Charcoal
                                                          without
                                                          remaining wood
                                                          in it doesn't
                                                          make smoke
                                                          but, of
                                                          course, wood
                                                          really likes
                                                          to smoke. With
                                                          biomass the
                                                          preparation
                                                          including
                                                          recipe,
                                                          drying, pellet
                                                          size, etc.
                                                          makes a big
                                                          difference in
                                                          emissions when
                                                          trying to get
                                                          down to the
                                                          very low
                                                          levels needed
                                                          to protect
                                                          health. I'm
                                                          making some
                                                          torrified
                                                          pellets and
                                                          will report
                                                          back after
                                                          testing under
                                                          the hood.</p>
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                                                          <p> </p>
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                                                        <div>
                                                          <p>All Best,</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
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                                                        <div>
                                                          <p>Dean</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>On Sat, May
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          3:52 PM,
                                                          Ronald
                                                          Hongsermeier
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>>
                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear
                                                          Dean,<br>
                                                          I may seem
                                                          like I'm
                                                          harping here,
                                                          but now that
                                                          you've said a
                                                          bit more,
                                                          you've
                                                          mentioned a
                                                          couple of
                                                          factors that I
                                                          have noticed
                                                          in my limited
                                                          experience
                                                          without a hood
                                                          and therefore
                                                          without
                                                          concrete
                                                          parametric
                                                          analysis, but
                                                          for which I
                                                          can give some
                                                          postulates.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          1. The
                                                          wood-gas stove
                                                          in design mode
                                                          depends on a
                                                          uniform fuel
                                                          "chunk-size"
                                                          which promotes
                                                          a level
                                                          "pyrolysis"
                                                          front(planar)
                                                          migrating
                                                          towards the
                                                          bottom of the
                                                          stove. If that
                                                          plane is
                                                          broken by
                                                          dis-uniformity
                                                          in the fuel or
                                                          overly large
                                                          gaps between
                                                          the fuel
                                                          pieces, you
                                                          will get a
                                                          spot drop in
                                                          temperature
                                                          along with
                                                          glowing fuel
                                                          which will
                                                          migrate
                                                          unevenly
                                                          towards the
                                                          bottom of the
                                                          stove,
                                                          breaking the
                                                          pyrolysis
                                                          front and
                                                          sometimes
                                                          dropping the
                                                          mean temp
                                                          inside the
                                                          burning
                                                          chamber such
                                                          that the
                                                          rising wood
                                                          gas will no
                                                          longer be
                                                          close enough
                                                          to critical
                                                          temp that the
                                                          onset of
                                                          2nd-ary air
                                                          will ignite
                                                          it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          2. 1. would be
                                                          consistent
                                                          with the bark
                                                          observation.
                                                          Bark generally
                                                          has lots more
                                                          minerals and
                                                          less energy
                                                          per unit mass.
                                                          Did you/they
                                                          assure dryness
                                                          level of the
                                                          bark? Were the
                                                          pieces between
                                                          (cross-section/10-20)
                                                          of the stoves
                                                          throat? Do you
                                                          mean pellets
                                                          from
                                                          eucalyptus
                                                          wood or when
                                                          eucalyptus oil
                                                          is poured on
                                                          the fuel? Off
                                                          the shelf
                                                          kerosin
                                                          burners here
                                                          in germany are
                                                          strictly
                                                          regulated as
                                                          to what you
                                                          may or may not
                                                          burn in them.
                                                          If it is
                                                          smoking it is
                                                          either wrong
                                                          fuel, design
                                                          flaw or user
                                                          error.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          3. Pellets
                                                          pack closely,
                                                          so if they are
                                                          smoking,
                                                          usually the
                                                          problem can be
                                                          fixed by
                                                          either turning
                                                          up the fan a
                                                          bit or putting
                                                          some chimney
                                                          length between
                                                          the secondary
                                                          air and the
                                                          pan to
                                                          increase the
                                                          draw. (i.e.,
                                                          the primary
                                                          air is
                                                          probably not
                                                          of sufficient
                                                          pressure to
                                                          deliver enough
                                                          O2 to the
                                                          pyrolysis
                                                          front to keep
                                                          it hot enough
                                                          such that it
                                                          will ignite
                                                          upon contact
                                                          with the
                                                          secondary
                                                          air.)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          4. Because
                                                          torrefied
                                                          pellets are
                                                          partially
                                                          reacted, they
                                                          may be
                                                          somewhat less
                                                          dense and
                                                          especially
                                                          because the
                                                          ends will be
                                                          cleaner, they
                                                          may not resist
                                                          airflow as
                                                          much, which
                                                          may help
                                                          somewhat with
                                                          3. above. I
                                                          would expect
                                                          them to act
                                                          very similar
                                                          to dry
                                                          pellets,
                                                          except for the
                                                          difference in
                                                          density.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          regards,<br>
                                                          Ronald von
                                                          Aftermidnighttimeforantibiotics
                                                          (and bed)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          23.05.2015
                                                          23:49, Dean
                                                          Still wrote:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Dear Ron, </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>We had
                                                          three women
                                                          interns here
                                                          at the
                                                          research
                                                          center for a
                                                          summer who
                                                          found cleaner
                                                          burning
                                                          recipes for
                                                          the TLUDs
                                                          gathered from
                                                          the
                                                          surrounding
                                                          forest. Some
                                                          things like
                                                          bark make
                                                          smoke, etc.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Many
                                                          pellets smoke
                                                          when using
                                                          eucalyptus,
                                                          etc. Different
                                                          mixtures of
                                                          kerosene make
                                                          more or less
                                                          smoke in off
                                                          the shelf
                                                          stoves.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>I'm
                                                          wondering if
                                                          torrified
                                                          pellets will
                                                          burn cleaner
                                                          than normal
                                                          pellets.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Best,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Dean</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>On Sat, May
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          1:28 PM,
                                                          Ronald
                                                          Hongsermeier
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>>
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                                          #cccccc
                                                          1.0pt;padding:0cm
                                                          0cm 0cm
                                                          6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
                                                          Dean,<br>
                                                          I remember
                                                          that there was
                                                          a proposed
                                                          university
                                                          program (W.
                                                          Virginia or
                                                          the
                                                          Carolinas??)
                                                          In view of the
                                                          deaths(not
                                                          _many_ but
                                                          tragic) that
                                                          have taken
                                                          place due to
                                                          off-loading of
                                                          pellets at
                                                          some European
                                                          ports (CO in
                                                          the hold) The
                                                          torrefaction
                                                          could lead to
                                                          a more inert
                                                          fuel. That's
                                                          hopeful
                                                          speculation on
                                                          my part
                                                          however. You
                                                          would be
                                                          transporting
                                                          some less
                                                          bound water
                                                          and the energy
                                                          density is
                                                          better than
                                                          regular
                                                          pellets in
                                                          addition to
                                                          the lack of
                                                          liquid or
                                                          vapor H2O
                                                          absorption
                                                          issue
                                                          mentioned
                                                          before-- these
                                                          would lend
                                                          efficiencies
                                                          in the
                                                          logistics end
                                                          of things and
                                                          an even more
                                                          uniform fuel
                                                          than regular
                                                          pellets, which
                                                          tend to absorb
                                                          quite a  bit
                                                          of water here
                                                          in the damp
                                                          winter
                                                          weather...<br>
                                                          I have to
                                                          admit that I'm
                                                          a bit puzzled
                                                          as to what you
                                                          mean by
                                                          cleaner fuel
                                                          recipes. What
                                                          specific
                                                          pollutant are
                                                          you interested
                                                          in or are you
                                                          talking about
                                                          particulate?<br>
                                                          If you aren't
                                                          choking the
                                                          burn by
                                                          putting the
                                                          pot too close,
                                                          you should be
                                                          getting a very
                                                          clean burn
                                                          with a TLUD?!?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          regards,<br>
                                                          Ron</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          23.05.2015
                                                          22:01, Dean
                                                          Still wrote:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Hi Ronald,
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>I'll keep
                                                          looking. I
                                                          think that we
                                                          shouldn't
                                                          forget cleaner
                                                          fuel recipes
                                                          as part of the
                                                          solution.
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Best,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Dean</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>On Sat, May
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          12:33 PM,
                                                          Ronald
                                                          Hongsermeier
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>>
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                                          #cccccc
                                                          1.0pt;padding:0cm
                                                          0cm 0cm
                                                          6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
                                                          Dean,<br>
                                                          I did some
                                                          searching
                                                          around on the
                                                          internet
                                                          several years
                                                          ago on this
                                                          topic.<br>
                                                          I'd like to
                                                          try torrefied
                                                          stuff as well,
                                                          but I struck
                                                          out at that
                                                          time.<br>
                                                          No idea where
                                                          to find them.<br>
                                                          The main
                                                          advantage that
                                                          I picked up on
                                                          at that time
                                                          was that they
                                                          should be
                                                          relatively
                                                          inert as to
                                                          picking up
                                                          extra water
                                                          after they
                                                          were
                                                          pelletized.<br>
                                                          Cleaner
                                                          burning than
                                                          what?<br>
                                                          clean burning
                                                          is a control
                                                          issue, not a
                                                          fuel issue as
                                                          far as I
                                                          understand. If
                                                          I understand
                                                          the concept
                                                          correctly,
                                                          it's like
                                                          using part of
                                                          the large
                                                          molecules
                                                          initially
                                                          broken out
                                                          (cracked) by
                                                          the heat in
                                                          the reaction
                                                          vessel to coat
                                                          the surfaces
                                                          of the
                                                          remaining
                                                          unpyrolized
                                                          material. This
                                                          should burn
                                                          quite okay in
                                                          a TLUD.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          regards,<br>
                                                          Ronald von
                                                          Nasennebenhöhlenhölle
                                                          (but I'm
                                                          coming back)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>On
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                                                          20:56, Dean
                                                          Still wrote:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Hi All, </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>I'd like to
                                                          try torrified
                                                          pellets in a
                                                          TLUD under the
                                                          emissions
                                                          hood.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Any ideas
                                                          on where to
                                                          find them?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Or if it
                                                          should be
                                                          cleaner
                                                          burning?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Best,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>Dean</p>
                                                          </div>
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