<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Paul, Crispin, and Stovers, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">“finding good publications on stoves” Many good publications for others but none for us because we don’t yet have biomass fuels classified into relevant classes suitable for us to predict how well a specific stove will respond with a specific fuel. Therefore, until this is done, publications comparing stoves means -nothing- to us. Perhaps there will be information in the articles useful for others. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Crispin writes; "<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">compare the</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; background-color: yellow;">fuel-stove combinations</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">. And that has only</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; background-color: yellow;">recently</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">been done</span><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size: 15px;" class="">”. </span></font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It has never been done. We don’t yet know how to do it. Only the three interns started working on finding what the characteristcs biomass have that might be useful to study. Then we need to determine the Working Range we need for the results and the appropriate test procedure needs to be developed to get within that range. We need to develop some ‘spider graph’ or something to illustrate where the fuel falls into and another telling where the ranges the stoves fall into. These are both physical and chemical properties. It is possible and should be keeping us busy for a while. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Frank</div><div class="">Intern 1</div><div class="">Intern 2</div><div class="">Intern 3</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
Frank Shields<br class=""><a href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com" class="">franke@cruzio.com</a><br class=""><br class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 29, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" class="">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Heh heh, Frank<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">OK, let me extend it:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">"There can be no (useful) comparison between stoves until we compare the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">fuel-stove combinations</span>. And that has only<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">recently</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>been done<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">in a systematic manner</span>. This being that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">a culturally relevant</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>task is being used and the stove is claimed to be designed for that task<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">and that fuel and moisture level</span>.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“Useful” = Our PURPOSE of developing better stoves is to improve Real World situations<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">hence the critical requirement to include the context of use in all comparative testing</span>. Fuels to study need to have the same characteristic<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">s</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as site-specific Real World fuels. Using any other in a comparison is a waste of time.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">>Only four people in the World realize this;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Well…that might be slightly unfair. Every cook who buys and uses a stove knows this. It would be more reasonable, if we are going to generalise, to say that people who do not use these stoves and who mostly work in offices in the Western World, do not realise this.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">But generalisations are usually wrong, right?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Crispin<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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