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Frank and Alex,<br>
<br>
About the conditions of the fuel and above the fuel, we can also add
the conditions in the bed of char that is above the MPF. And the
main factor that I am thinking of is the temperature in those zones
above the MPF. Imagine that the gases become rather cool before
reaching the incoming secondary air, then there could be greater
likelihood that some could slip past the secondary burning.<br>
<br>
Frank asked about the preferred fuel sizes in my (or other) TLUDs.
I do not have such preferences. I like pellets, of course. But
there must be allowance for a variety of sizes. <br>
<br>
NOTE: I advocate some form of control on the entry of the primary
air that then can move upward. TLUD stoves that rely on the sizes
of the air passageways in the fuels as the control mechanism are
seriously restricted to a specific size and shape of fuel. <br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/9/2015 11:42 AM, Frank Shields
wrote:<br>
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Dear Alex,
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<div class="">I think the fuel and the environment above the fuel
is both of equal importance. So do we change the fuel or the
combustion set-up? that is the question. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">A stove system that is able to burn a wide variety
of fuels and widely sold may be difficult and/or expensive to
make adjustments for a specific fuel. So in this case if it is
easy to change the fuel that may be preferred. I think the
answer to change the fuel or the stove system depends on the
amount of work and expense involved. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Thats the way I look at it today. : )</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Frank</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<p dir="ltr" class="">Frank,<br class="">
If there are emissions that derive from fuel directly
and then escape further 'processing' by flame
environments by sneaking by , then they might be called
something like primary fuel derived emissions. PFDEs. It
is safe to say, I think,that most of these would be
transformed into products of complete or incomplete
combustion in and around the flame. I may be confused,
but this mix would likely have less to do with the fuel
than the environment above fuel.<br class="">
Hmm<br class="">
Alex</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 2015-09-09 8:55 AM, "Frank
Shields" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com" class="">franke@cruzio.com</a>>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Dear Paul
and Stovers,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">For ‘user-acceptance’ and ‘market
driven’ I would think preparing the fuel optimized
for your stove that quickly boils water with
little dirty emissions is one and the same.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I would think that would be drying
and, perhaps as Dean has mentioned, driving off
some of the early volatiles that may pass the
secondary before complete combustion.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Paul - Do you have information as to
the optimum size and shape the biomass should be
for your stove? That should be determined.</div>
<div class="">Then we go to testing the parameters
of the biomass like carbon bulk density and carbon
particle density along with water soluble sugars
and lipids that may contribute to poor emissions.
It could be as simple as soaking and draining out
constituents to improve the quality as well as
heating to drive off the early volatiles. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">But first we need to find what it is
in the fuel that causes the poor emissions. That
could be to take some problem biomass and get a
baseline from testing. </div>
<div class="">Then pre-heat to drive off early
volatiles and re-test. Then using another batch
soak in hot water, drain, dry and re-test. And
finally soak in a solvent, drain, dry and
re-test. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Using emissions tests to get ratios of
emission components and particles might be enough
to determine success. Or add helium surrogate to
get absolute concentrations as they are produced
might be info that would help. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Frank</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">Frank Shields</div>
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href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com"
target="_blank" class="">franke@cruzio.com</a></div>
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<div class="">On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Paul
Anderson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"
target="_blank" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>
wrote:</div>
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class=""> Frank and Stovers,<br class="">
<br class="">
My simplistic interest in the "induced
drying" of biomass fuels is related to
improving the user-acceptance of the TLUD
cookstoves and the establishment of some
fuel marketing chain. The degree of
drying / torrification would be market
driven, not related to emissions or
technical characteristics of the resultant
fuels. <br class="">
<br class="">
As the degree of drying / heating of the
fuels increases, the cost of that
processing will rise. So I favor the
minimum treatment that will benefit the
customer and will justify the increase in
fuel price. <br class="">
<br class="">
A favorable situation would be to use
essentially waste heat to prepare the
future fuel supplies. Or expend a small
amount of fuel to prepare a much larger
amount of fuel that will be sold with
sustainable profitability.<br class="">
<br class="">
Paul<br class="">
<pre cols="72" class="">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank" class="">+1-309-452-7072</a>
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class="">
<div class="">On 9/8/2015 3:55 PM, Frank
Shields wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class=""> Dear
Paul,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Making batches of
different degrees of torrification
biofuels is one thing and then
testing and interpreting the results
is another. </div>
<div class="">Do we measure success on
emissions or time it takes to boil
water? And them we have other
variables like bulk carbon density
and particle carbon density.
Volatiles and adding moisture. Size
and shape will be important. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">So once we figure out a
way of making constant quality
material for testing there is still
a lot of research work to do.
Agreeing on what we use as a measure
of success is the first.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">regards</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Frank</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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class="">
<div class="">Frank Shields</div>
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href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com"
target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com">franke@cruzio.com</a></a></div>
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<div class="">On Sep 6, 2015, at
5:32 AM, Paul Anderson <<a
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href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"
target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a></a>>
wrote:</div>
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Dear all,<br class="">
<br class="">
While agreeing with Frank
and Dean, I suggest that
there are sufficient
"degrees of torrification"
that we should subdivide the
discussion.<br class="">
<br class="">
1. Wet or green wood
High moisture content (MC)<br
class="">
2. Dried in 20% MC range<br
class="">
3. Dried to 10% MC or less<br
class="">
4. Kiln dried (heated to
???? degrees C)<br class="">
5. Super dried (heated to
maybe 120 C)<br class="">
6. Toasted (slightly
browning) 120 to 180 C
???<br class="">
7. Early
torrified
180 - 240 C ??<br class="">
8. Fully
torrified 240
- 300 C ??<br class="">
9. Undergoing pyrolysis
above 300 C ???<br class="">
10. And then we have
different "chars" based on
temperatures during
production, 400 C, 450 C,
550 C, 700 C, 900 C<br
class="">
<br class="">
LOTS of question marks
there. Frank and others
can refine this much
better. Issues of MC and
temperatures and "names"
(and related to sufficient
time to have the heat impact
reach the center of the
pieces of biomass, not just
flash heating), and probably
more variables.<br class="">
<br class="">
To just say "torrified"
leaves too many
uncertainties and possible
mis-understandings /
assumptions by the large
number of readers in
different cultures and with
different experiences.<br
class="">
<br class="">
I can say that TLUD stoves
(when properly made and with
consistent MC in the fuels)
work very well with the 3,
4, 5, and 6 (above) fuels.
They do not like much
moisture content, and they
do not want the fuel to be
already partially charred.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Reasonable quality fuel
supply is so important for
TLUD acceptance. More work
could be done about this.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Paul<br class="">
<br class="">
<pre cols="72" class="">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank" class="">+1-309-452-7072</a>
Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.drtlud.com/" target="_blank" class="">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="">On 9/5/2015
11:45 PM, Frank Shields
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
class=""> Dear Dean,
Stovers,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I have not
worked with stoves but
working with all types
of pellets (paper,
manures, etc.) and good
quality wood pellets I
find they burn in pipes
very poorly and seem
they are really just
good for pellet stoves
dropping in one at a
time. </div>
<div class="">I think you
may be on to something
in regards to torrifying
to some extent before
using to get a cleaner
combustion. I see the
real challenge is
quality control because
torrification takes
place in a very narrow
range and it is so easy
to have a ‘run-a-way’
combustion that heats
higher than the setting
you want. I was able to
achieve that in my pipes
but only after much
practice and s l o w l
y raising the
temperature to desired
amount. Not sure how
this would be done
commercially. It would
be a very interesting
project. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">We also may
be able to get clean
combustion by finding
constituents in the
pellets (and all biomass
for that matter) that
create these large
organic volatile
structures that give
problems and eliminate
them from the fuel. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Frank</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class=""><br class="">
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class="">
<div class="">Frank
Shields</div>
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class="">
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type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep
3, 2015, at 12:28
PM, Dean Still
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href="mailto:deankstill@gmail.com" target="_blank" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:deankstill@gmail.com">deankstill@gmail.com</a></a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr"
class="">Hi
Frank,
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">After
limited
experience in
Uganda and
China my
experience is
that it's not
easy to make
clean burning
recipes for
biomass
pellets.
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Seems
like the
torrified
pellets emit
less PM but we
need to do
more tests.</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Best,</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Dean</div>
</div>
</div>
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class="gmail_extra"><br
class="">
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Sep 3,
2015 at 8:44
AM, Frank
Shields <span
dir="ltr"
class=""><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com" target="_blank"
class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:franke@cruzio.com">franke@cruzio.com</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br
class="">
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style="margin:0
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dir="auto"
class="">
<div class="">Dear
Chispin and
stovers</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Of
course no
mention of the
quality of the
pellets! In
the U.S. The
go through
standard
testing and
results
labeled</div>
<div class="">On
bags. But
pellets are
made of all
sorts of
materials and
energy values
and volatile
profiles. It
would seem
this would be
part of the
discussion. </div>
<div class="">Thanks</div>
<div class="">Frank<br
class="">
<br class="">
Sent from my
iPhone</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
On Sep 3,
2015, at 6:13
AM, Crispin
Pemberton-Pigott
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wrote:<br
class="">
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal">Dear
Friends</p>
<div class=""> <br
class="">
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">There
is a broad
move around
the world to
create
pelleted fuel
from biomass
and burn it in
tighter
spaces. This
report was
noted in the
Alliance for
Green Heat
newsletter:</p>
<div class=""> <br
class="">
</div>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt"
class=""><span
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target="_blank" class=""><b class="">Updated on the Mt. Vernon pellet
stove recall</b></a></span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt"
class=""><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#4f604f"
class="">Last
month, we
reported on
the recall of
2,000 Mt.
Vernon E2
pellet
stoves after
about 6
experienced
explosions
that shattered
the glass in
the front
door. No
injuries have
been reported.
The Alliance
wrote to HHT
asking for
clarifications
about what
caused the
malfunction
and whether
the stove
would be 3rd
party tested
again for
safety. </span><span
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class="">Click
here</span></b></a></span><span
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class=""> for
a copy of the
HHT response.</span><span
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<div class=""><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#4f604f"
class=""> </span><br
class="">
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">The
drive to
create better
combustion
often means
having a
staged
gasification-then-burning
type of
design. That
may be a
source of
problems.</p>
<div class=""> <br
class="">
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">I
know of at
least one
instance of a
very modern
TLUD coal
stove
explosion in
Ulaanbaatar
when the
operator
refuelled it
with a
significant
amount of
lignite (high
volatiles)
while it was
already very
hot. This
generated a
huge amount of
combustible
gas while
simultaneously
extinguishing
the gas
flame.
Eventually it
heated up to
the point that
the gas
ignited and it
blew flaming
fuel out of
the top of the
stove, around
the room. A
public
education
campaign tried
to prevent
exactly this
sort of
mis-operation.</p>
<div class=""> <br
class="">
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Regards</p>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Crispin</p>
<div class=""> <br
class="">
</div>
</div>
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