<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div><div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 9, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Joshua Guinto <<a href="mailto:jed.building.bridges@gmail.com">jed.building.bridges@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks a lot Dr. Paul These words are encouraging and coming from you multiplies the encouragement. <div><br></div><div>Im writing a narrative of the anatomy of the stove. It now has come to several pages and 6.5 MB. Now trying to downscale the size to 1.5 MB and less. . There i explained all the processes that i installed - air, fuel, heat... There are many things unknown as i only have limited tools and equipments to measure the parameters. </div><div><br></div><div>Will get back to you with the narrative. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Jed. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><b><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Joshua B. Guinto<br></span></b><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Specialist, Appropriate Technology<br></span></div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">MSc Management of AgroEcological Knowledge and Social Change (MAKS)<br></span></div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Wageningen University, The Netherlands</span> <span style="font-family:garamond,serif">2006 to 2008</span><b><br></b></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Recipient, International Fellowships Programme Award (IFP) 2005<br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Ford Foundation </span><b><br></b></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-07 17:59 GMT-07:00 Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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JED,<br>
<br>
Truly awesome!!!!!!!!! [Based on very little information, but he
tells us truly important info about fuel and boiling time and
combustion technology. This truly looks promising.]<br>
<br>
I suspect that you are on the verge of a major shift in cooking
stoves. Your attachment with photos in your original message
should be seen by all. It will be soon placed on the
<a href="http://www.drtlud.com/" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a> website. <br>
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What I am reading and interpreting is this:<br>
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1. Abundant supply of a fuel that is appropriate in size, energy
content, moisture, etc. Literally an agricultural "refuse" for
free or for the cost of transport. Producers will start selling
it, but it is already UNDER the price of other fuels, so the price
will only rise to the level that the market will bear. <br>
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2. A CERAMIC / MUD / CLAY stove, made by a master of clay stoves.
We would like to know the cost of the stove. And how easily can it
be made ? Importance of clay is in next item. And it should be
able to handle numerous other appropriate biomass fuels, but doing
just one (pili nut shells) is sufficient for starting and
establishing what can be accomplished.<br>
<br>
3. You operate in TLUD mode (correctly characterized by the
downward migratory pyrolytic fron MPF). And then you continue to
burn the created char while adding (please explain where and how)
additional fuel. The result is the high heat in the char-bed, but
without the metal parts that are damaged by high heat. Ceramics to
the rescue!!!! Continuous burning. <br>
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4. Plus you are demonstrating the making of light. Very nice. <br>
<br>
Best wishes. Please tell us more. And about the important
issues of user acceptance. Many of us are willing to be of
assistance. In some ways you are only scratching the surface of
what you are demonstrating. Congratulations. <br>
<br>
And are you going to the GACC Forum in Ghana in November 10 - 13?
<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
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<div>On 9/7/2015 4:59 PM, Joshua Guinto
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Dear Crispin, Paul
and everyone</span>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Let me jump into the
conversation. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">I am now in the midst of the
gasifier stove i am fabricating and the abundant supply of
pili shells. Pili <i><b>(canarium ovatum)</b></i> is an
endemic species of my place here at the Bicol Region which is
south of Manila. The shells  are very much heavier than
macadamia nuts and has a density of 0.87 grams/cm3. . </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Two days ago we began hauling 4
tons of the shells to become my stocks of fuel. I will sell
the shells along with my PapaBrick Stove. And then, while we
are hauling the shells, we were offered another 6 tons of
shells from the neighbor farm, both in the same village. I
used to purchase the shells from another village where to my
best estimate, there is more than 10 tons per month that are
very much underused. This supply is expected to increase as
more farms have planted thousands of pili trees as the farmers
got more awareness with the use of the shell for gasifier
stoves. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">On the other hand, the PapaBrick
Stove is giving us satisfying performance, now that we know
better how to use it can perform as a TLUD gasifier stove
during the cold start phase and then work as a rocket during
the hot start phase in a continuous mode. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">One load receives 1.25 kg of the
shells and runs for 75 minutes of very clean flame, boils 4
liter of water in 14 minutes during the cold start phase and
then 9 minutes during the hot start phase. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">After the flame has gone out, we
can harvest an average of 2.73 grams of char from the raw fuel
of 1.25 kg or about 21 % recovery.</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Going further i fabricated a
lantern on top of the stove. And it was very satisfying. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Regards</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">JEd </div>
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<div><b><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Joshua
B. Guinto<br>
</span></b><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Specialist,
Appropriate Technology<br>
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<span style="font-family:garamond,serif">MSc
Management of AgroEcological Knowledge and
Social Change (MAKS)<br>
</span></div>
<span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Wageningen
University, The Netherlands</span> <span style="font-family:garamond,serif">2006 to
2008</span><b><br>
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<div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Recipient,
International Fellowships Programme Award
(IFP) 2005<br>
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<div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">Ford
Foundation </span><b><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-03 20:31 GMT-07:00 Paul
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span>:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Crispin and all,<br>
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Do you know of any location that has these shells and has
access to TLUD gasifiers?  The combination of these
shells and TLUDs has great potential, but only if someone
somewhere puts the two together in a serious project or
venture. I would be interested in having contact with
people in such situations.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank">+1-309-452-7072</a>
Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com/" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
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<div>On 9/2/2015 6:01 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Friends</p><p class="MsoNormal">Her are two fuels that are
abundant (in places) and really interesting to
work with. Both can be charcoaled and both are
really strong.</p>
Oil Palm Kernel Shells
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
</p><p class="MsoNormal">And</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><br>
</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Candle nut shells.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
</p><p class="MsoNormal">The price is something like
$70 per ton. Moisture is low and energy ins in
the 18-19 MJ/kg range. The can be burned in a
TLUD to make charcoal, and the charcoal is
strong enough to sell in sacks.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
</p><p class="MsoNormal">The interesting about these
fuels is they are not just available in many
thousands of tons, they pack quite well so a
packed bed gasifier is a pretty good burner.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
</p><p class="MsoNormal">For crossdraft and downdraft
enthusiasts, they can also be used in hoppers
burning something and intermediate coal.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
</p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards</p><p class="MsoNormal">Crispin</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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