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Indeed, nature is so wonderful, it's hard to believe it's random.
Further, I'm not in any way suggesting we need to regulate fire
everywhere, just that I'd prefer fuel in areas near civilization to
go up the chimney in as efficiently as a fashion possible, to having
it go up mostly in smoke whilst acting to provide kindling to torch
said civilized patches. <br>
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regards,<br>
Ron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21.09.2015 21:52, Philip Lloyd
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes,
and here one have one of the world’s smallest biomes, yet
one of the richest, and most species are propagated by
fire. There is even symbiosis between insects and plants –
some plants have developed a sticky resin outside their
seeds, which ants love, and carry into their nests as a food
store against times of drought. The drought comes, the ants
eat the stored food, the fire sweeps across the surface, and
when the rain follows, the seeds burst into growth. Oh yes
– the rain has to pick up some chemicals from the fire to
persuade the seeds to germinate. The won’t germinate with
clean water. Isn’t nature wonderful?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Philip
Lloyd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Stoves [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald Hongsermeier<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 September 2015 09:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] brush fires<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Kirk,<br>
<br>
back in the late 80's I lived in California during the end of
the last major drought cycle there. I watched the levels in
the reservoirs above Fresno and Bakersfield go down to nearly
creek levels. The idea of virgin forests is one that dies hard
among the green activists. Buffer zones where wood and brush
and dry grasses can be harvested -- even for the express
purpose of fire suppression -- is unpopular because it goes
against Mother Nature being the highest value and Nature only
really being of value when it is pristine as in "untouched by
humankind". That uncontrolled fuel accumulation leads to
uncontrollable fires is a thought that goes cross-grain to the
Nature religion's orthodoxy. Unluckily, both humans and all
other forms of biodiversity cook similarly when forest-fired!<br>
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regards,<br>
Ron<br>
P.S. because of the equipment and energy costs, pelletizing is
probably only going to be cost-effective if you will be either
doing large amounts or are co-oping and have lots of free
labor. Most free lunches leave an aftertaste.<o:p></o:p></p>
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have known Dr. Paul Anderson and Dr. Ron Larson for two
years and they have been honorable men.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">We
in California and along the west coast of the USA have
been experiencing droughts and numerous wild brush and
forest fires. Does anyone on the list know of a way to
harvest brush and make it into wood stove fuel such as
pellets? Can this be a profitable incentive to remove
the brush? If it was profitable to harvest the brush in
key areas, removing it as wild fire fuel, perhaps the
fires could be broken up and contained into smaller
areas before they become so big. Then we would have the
pellets to use as needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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