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Dear Art,<br>
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I can clear up some of the confusion.<br>
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1. Counting preparations, 5 weeks trip to Africa, and 2 weeks back,
I have been only peripherally active with some messages. That
partly explains.<br>
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2. Derick and I and a few were in very preliminary chats about some
biochar topic in Guatemala. But there were elections going on,
etc. And the new government is not in power until mid January.
And Derick and I were not pushing.<br>
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3. I must admit that I do not understand the Wiggio process. I
thought that the biochar-stoves group was a new listserv. And I
have received very few messages. But it seems that the Wiggio
process is to set up some specialty discussions on topics of
interest. I have not looked at any such messages, so I have not
responded. I am not wanting to be subscribed to additional lists
or groups that require me to go to some site (other than my main
email account) to see the messages. So I have not participated.
And I do not wish to participate at that level. I have as much as
I can handle with the Stoves and Biochar and Gasification Listservs,
where I certainly am active. I do not even allow discussions via
my drtlud.com website; people with comments for Dr TLUD either
write to those listservs or directly to me. <br>
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4. My latest count of ongoing projects of gasifier stoves and/or
biochar in which I am directly active is eleven, in eleven
countries. One of those is Guatemala with Derick. I will discuss
those projects with others via the listservs or as separate
messages.<br>
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5. My interest in biochar are about production and about use in
growing plants. I am not involved with environmental remediations
(such as what is needed at Lago Amatitlan). There are fashionable
houses around that lake, and those residents are not likely
candidates for TLUD cookstoves. That is a realization today. I
will consider something at Lake Atitlan where there are rural
villages. Or closer to Derick's residence and bamboo farm/factory.<br>
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6. I am now aware that the discussions of biochar-producing stoves
is on neither the Stoves Listserv nor on the Biochar Listserv. I
do not find that to be favorable, but I can accept it. I hope that
occasionally someone will give a short summary of those topics to
the two listservs, and I will see the messages there. I look
forward to knowing of those activities. Likewise, people who are
only on the biochar-stoves listserv need to remember that there is
relevant content at the Stoves and the Biochar listservs. It is
clear to all of us that people with diverse interests need to be
willing to cross-reference and sometimes get duplicate messages. <br>
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I hope that explains my lack of communications (especially while on
my long trip.) <br>
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I look forward to reading about everyone's activities.<br>
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Note: The next "gathering spot" for us with stoves and biochar
interests will be at ETHOS 2016 in Seattle, for which the
notification of registration and call for abstracts was posted
yesterday. I hope everyone is getting that information.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2015 11:46 AM, Art Donnelly
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<div>Hi Derick,<br>
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I to am cynical about the willingness of those
corrupt interests, that run the affairs of
government around the world, to allow any real
change to be made in business as usual. On that we
can agree.<br>
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I am however, confused by your statements about Paul
(Anderson?) and the efforts and interest or lack of it
on the part of others on the Wiggio list. Neither you
nor Paul have shared any of Paul's ideas or plans for
using biochar to address the huge environmental
disaster that is Lake Amatitlan. <br>
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However, when you received input and queries from very
qualified and well known a ecologist like Dr. Thomas
Goreau in Panama or Environmental engineers like Lloyd
Helferty in Canada you did not respond. And when I began
to ask specific questions you told me that you and Ivan
(?) felt it was best that we delay any further
discussion until Dr. Anderson came up with the plan.<br>
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So perhaps, like me, people on the Wiggio group were
simply confused.<br>
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If you want to solicit input and support from those on that
list-serv , please go to the Wiggio feed page. <a
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Use the "Start a Conversation" box at the top of the page to
start a conversation about your project and please make sure
to give it a subject line so that people can follow that
conversation. <br>
I think you will be amazed at the quality of the input that
you can get from this group, but like everything else, in
every other facet of life you will get out of this what you
put in.<br>
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I would be interested in rejoining that conversation.<br>
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my best wishes,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Art wishing you all well. I just read in
your mail about your African Project. I wish you success
in it.From Seattle to GABON is indeed a spectacular
adventure..I have been in contact with my friends at
COP21.Governments have the main culprits of the CO2
problems and they have spent 20 COP's and according to
news this one too.Private enterprise is starting to do
well.Howmuch?????.
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<div>I feel somehow that in spite of many members of your
group mentioning their interest. Nobody has given
support to Paul in his search for solutions for the
lake.If this goes on I do not feel that we will
succeed.I think it will be a pity to lose . But life is
that way .</div>
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<div>While Paul went ahead.As agreed I went to work on
lake Amatitlan.But if things are this way we will
probably lose it also.</div>
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<div>I will be leaving in a few days and will be back in
JanuarySo I wish you all a very wunderfful Christmas
Feliz Navidad y un Prospero 201`6.</div>
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