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A.D., Priya, and all Stovers.<br>
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Yes, a very nice stove with some innovations evident. About the
discussion, here are a few comments:<br>
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1. Certainly SOME water is entering the stove (between the two
walls), and there seems to be no way out except upward with either
the primary air or secondary air. The real question is how much
water. Priya, please tell us how much water enters either per
usage (and how many minutes that is) or how much water per minute
leaves the water jug (by weight). And if we know the MC (moisture
content) of the fuel and how much fuel, we can know approximately
how much water is in the fuel. It will be very interesting to see
the comparision of the amounts of entering steam-water versus the
water content of the fuel.<br>
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2. Just for clarification: From prior communications with the
Karves, the natural draft (ND) Sampada stove is a semi-gasifier or
other variation of gasifier, and it is not normally operated as a
strict TLUD with a MPF (migratory pyrolytic front). The Karves do
not claim that the Sampada stove is operated like a TLUD stove, both
by bottom ignition and by adding additional fuel through an opening
at the top. This applies to the FA (forced air) Sampada stove
also. In the video the ignition is clearly by inserting vertically
two long pieces of ignition-fuel that have been immersed in the
starter liquid. Upon ignition, the flame front will quickly
descend to the bottom of the ignition-fuel, and fire will be at the
bottom because that is where the primary air is entering. <br>
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Congratulations on demonstrating a way to have forced air into
stoves without the need of electricity!!!!<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/26/2016 10:56 AM, Anand Karve
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Stovers,
<div>I am forwarding a message from my daughter, Dr.
Priyadarshini Karve.</div>
<div>Yours</div>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Priyadarshini Karve</b> <span
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Date: Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:33 PM<br>
Subject: re ELFD Sampada<br>
To: Anand Karve <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>We cannot really say if any water vapour is going
inside the fuel chamber or not, and even if it is, how
significant that is for the combustion. The stove has a
double walled structure, and the steam just pushes air
flow in the space between the outer and inner walls. The
inner wall has holes opening into the fuel chamber, and
the incoming air passes into the fuel chamber through
these holes. Some water vapour is entering through the
outer wall for sure, but how much, if any, is getting to
the fuel chamber is uncertain. </div>
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<div>To see the operation of the stove you can direct
people to two YouTube video links: </div>
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<div>Regards, </div>
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<div>Priya</div>
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