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Dear Hussein,<br>
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We are now on the road to collaborative efforts.!!!! I look
forward to working further with you and others.<br>
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There are MANY designs of TLUD stoves, and some are certainly
"upscale versions", depending on what features are desired. Size
is a big factory. What TLUD stoves do you know of or have worked
with? Have you seen the Troika TLUD by Awamu, made only 100 meters
from the west gate of Makerere University, in Kikoni, Kampala?
(Full disclosure: I am one of the founders of that company in 2012,
and have given my 50% to my Juntos Energy Solution NFP (an Illinois
non-profit that I direct).<br>
<br>
There are also numerous configurations of TEG units appropriate for
cookstove-size operations. Most are experimental. Some are
moving well toward commercial implementation. Those units are
mainly designed in the developed countries, and therefore the makers
can greatly benefit from collaborative efforts in the societies
(such as Uganda) that could best utilize these advances. <br>
<br>
To all readers: Assume for a moment that <br>
1. one or more reasonable TLUD designs WITH some production
capabilities exist in your locale of operations WITHIN A
DEVELOPING SOCIETY where the people could realistically benefit for
production of a few watts of electrical power, and <br>
<br>
2. that one or more TEG configurations could be compatible with
that TLUD stove, (assume that this is totally viable).<br>
<br>
Then:<br>
3. What could be your (to everyone, not just to Hussein) DIRECT
INVOLVEMENT to make things come together for evaluation, pilot, and
implementation efforts? Direct involvement could include money,
time, management, "connections" with villages, etc. <br>
<br>
GOAL: I would like to identify 3 to 5 HIGHLY VIABLE PLACES and
participants to make the TEG-TLUD efforts take place. Eventually
everywhere should enjoy the benefits. But right now (2016) we need
to have a few key sites. Nominations of sites need to be
accompanied with information about commitments and resources, etc.
<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/21/2016 8:25 AM, Hussein Nsamba
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<p dir="ltr">Dear Prof Paul,</p>
<p dir="ltr">What a great thought for collaborative efforts? Its
also great to observe the keen interest of Erich and Andrew
alongside other folks. I have no reservations for such a noble
cause and open to any thoughts of collaborative work and to put
this to the next possible level.</p>
<p dir="ltr">On a lighter note, have you yet come out with an
upscale version of a TLUD ? Under what scale up factor if yes ?
If integrated with an assisted fan could process a significant
yield of biochar and heat alongside it's conventional benefits.
This would create a new prototype beyond conventional cooking.
Every household with an upscaled TLUD would then be able to
process their own biochar and put back their soils. The TEG
(alongside other functions) would then produce electricity to
power the fan to expedite the gasification reactions (reduce on
the gasification time) as the conventional natural draft would
take longer hours to process. This would produce different
brands of TLUDs in the market, from conventional cooking, power
and char to midscale char and power. It would indeed be great to
equally think about the possibility to recycle the heat lost
inform of vapors either as a form of drying the moist biomass or
another form of value addition.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'm sure this is something we can achieve and I'm
looking forward to a day where these ideas can be showcased
beyond the anticipated challenges.<br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr">Over to you folks?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Hussein</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 21 May 2016 1:33 p.m., "Paul Anderson
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> [biochar]" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com"><biochar@yahoogroups.com></a>
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<p> Dear Hussein,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. As you can see
from the separate replies by Andrew Heggie of the UK
and Erich Knight in the USA, this topic is of
interest to many of us.<br>
<br>
I and Nolbert of Awamu in Kampala are interested in
your development of a workshop for stove
production. <br>
<br>
The use of some of the generated power to operate a
small fan on a TLUD-FA stove is of interest, but (as
you surely know) natural draft units are also able
to give the needed heat. BOTH avenues are of
interest.<br>
<br>
How open are you to collaborative efforts about
linking the TEG in TLUD stoves? The "TEG-TLUD"
efforts could become collaborative or competitive,
depending on the desires of those involved. I favor
collaboration.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<pre>Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div>On 5/20/2016 6:45 PM, Nsamba Hussein Kisiki
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<div>Dear Prof Paul,</div>
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<div>Many thanks for your email. I am indeed
passionate about retrofitting TEGs to already
existing improved cooking stoves to increase
their functions especially for the end user to
be able to watch a television, able to treat
water (UV treatment), able to listen to radios,
provide LED lighting as well as charge mobile
phones alongside biochar production.</div>
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<div>I assume this will make great contributions
to the developing world, considering the fact
that about 1.4 billion people have no access to
power and since 2.8billion people are expected
to be relying on traditional biomass for cooking
by 2030.</div>
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<div>I assume the above could be achieved if upto
5Wh of power can be achieved from a conventional
cooking stove retrofitted with TEG. </div>
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</div>
<div>I am proposed to integrating the technology
with the fan which could use could use less than
a watt to supply more air to the stove and
improve on the stove combustion efficiency, to
further reduce on the dangers arising from
indoor pollution.</div>
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<div>I would preferably be keen to succeed with
the above initially with individual households,
where of course custom designs can later be
scaled up based on need and demand. From a
research perceptive, It would be great to
compare the performance of TEG retrofitted
stoves with and without fans especially in terms
of fuel consumption rate, duration of operation,
emission levels, difference in costs, etc.</div>
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<div>All said, I believe this is something we can
achieve as a team. </div>
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<div>PS: I have built up a centre in Uganda, with
fabrication and welding facility, having
capacity to fabricate the preferred stove
designs, upto any required volume. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My contributions towards this have so far
been on personal levels,financed from personal
savings and with no external funding but I am
sure this is something that can be supported,
considering the contributions it offers, to the
World.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hussein</div>
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