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Todd,<br>
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You and anyone else are encouraged to provide full documentation
about both early and current TLUD work in China. Photos, video of
operations, statements by Chinese who have studied this, and
whatever else can be presented.<br>
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Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/17/2016 8:44 PM, Todd Albi wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><i>TLUDs were developed in China</i>. Note intense
tall flame, the Chinese developed this advanced secondary
combustion over primary combustion technology specifically for
wok cooking, their preferred cooking methodology. In fact more
TLUDs are produced in China than anywhere else in the World.
Natural draft TLUD's have been utilized in China for over a
century from what we can determine. Unfortunately no
documentation exists. The stoves are found in old homes
throughout China that have fallen down decades ago.
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<div>If you explore ancient Chinese homes, you'll find natural
draft wood burning TLUD configurations in numerous homes. The
top burning gasification was referred to as 2nd wind. This
additional firepower is highly desired and intended to
maximize temperatures required for wok cooking. While great
discussions have been going on regarding turn down power
designs as a relatively new innovation, it is not. </div>
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<div>We have been selling both a natural draft TLUD with primary
air dampner for 4 years now, and a forced air fan stove with a
pulse width modulator (interrupts electrical signal to create
fan speed to regulate firepower) since 2012, in addition to
rocket stoves. The TLUDs cook faster and hotter than the
rocket stove, but actually complement each other for different
styles of cooking. </div>
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<div>Although a TLUD can easily return to high firepower with
the addition of new fuel, there is also a cadence to cooking
with a TLUD that occurs over time. The turn down control when
cooking with a TLUD is a natural process over time, with or
without a mechanical damper. That seems to be a nuance missed
by many.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div>Todd Albi, SilverFire</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.silverfire.us">www.silverfire.us</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:47 PM,
Mangolazi <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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China? There are hundreds of millions of farmers and rural
dwellers there, most of them still using firewood or biomass
for cooking and heating. LPG is used mainly in urban areas
and it's mainly piped gas, not canisters.<br>
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I've yet to see any TLUD stoves during my travels there,
despite most of the EBay woodgas stoves being made there.
Most farm houses use simple chimney stoves or 3-stone fires.
I've seen nomadic herders up in the Tibetan plateau using
cast iron chimney stoves but even those were smoky, filling
up tents with choking soot. TLUDs running on wood and dung
could provide interior and cooking heat with much lower
emissions, provided they can work at high above 4000 m.<br>
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Anyway, just my 2c...<br>
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