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Crispin and others who do work in Indonesia,<br>
<br>
I thank Xavier for the link about <br>
<h1>Clean Cookstove Models that have Received Government
Accreditation in the Second Period:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tungkuindonesia.org/en/news/2015/11/99/Clean-Cookstove-Models-that-have-Received-Government-Accreditation-in-the-Second-Period.html?month=01&day=01&year=2016&month=02&year=2016">http://www.tungkuindonesia.org/en/news/2015/11/99/Clean-Cookstove-Models-that-have-Received-Government-Accreditation-in-the-Second-Period.html?month=01&day=01&year=2016&month=02&year=2016</a>
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It is useful for many people to see. Shows a functional
clasification system and the ratings of 7 stoves. There are also
(somewhere) the results of the First Period of testing.<br>
<br>
I would appreciate information about the price in Indonesia (but
give in dollars or provide the exchange rate) of each of those
approved stoves (the 7 plus any others). That should be
available. Please note any info about subsidies, etc. so that we
can have realistic comparisons.<br>
<br>
Less available but of interest would be any information about the
number of each of those stoves being sold.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/25/2016 10:06 AM, Xavier Brandao
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:1b141cd1-11f1-4258-6e31-d89d3f61f59d@gmail.com"
type="cite">Super, thanks Crispin.
<br>
<br>
Besides the Practical Action that Ingelore sent, I couldn't find
anything online related to construction of the Upesi/Maendeleo and
it's dimensions.
<br>
I would like to know what are the original recommended dimensions,
but also the ones of all the stoves that were disseminated. There
may be a difference, or not.
<br>
<br>
I remembered this conversation about the Keren Super (or is it
Super Keren?) and the Indonesia stove program. I looked it up in
my emails. You shared some info about the dimensions to Rebecca
Vermeer, but I don't think you share them fully on the list? Nor
the drawings?
<br>
<br>
Using Google, the stove presence remains discrete online, here
there is a:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tungkuindonesia.org/en/news/2015/11/99/Clean-Cookstove-Models-that-have-Received-Government-Accreditation-in-the-Second-Period.html?month=01&day=01&year=2016&month=02&year=2016">http://www.tungkuindonesia.org/en/news/2015/11/99/Clean-Cookstove-Models-that-have-Received-Government-Accreditation-in-the-Second-Period.html?month=01&day=01&year=2016&month=02&year=2016</a>
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Right next to our Prakti Double Burner!
<br>
<br>
Is the stove open source? Are you able to share freely the
drawings and production instructions?
<br>
<br>
Hello Ingelore,
<br>
<br>
Thank you for the Practical Action document, I had read it, and I
hadn't found mention of the complete dimensions, besides the pot
rest mould. It would have been nice to have the full dimensions,
once the stove is finished (so the artisan can check if the job
was done properly).
<br>
For example, what is the size of the door? Can the full dimensions
be found somewhere?
<br>
<br>
Thanks!
<br>
<br>
Hi Dale,
<br>
<br>
"My personal goal is to develop a stove that will burn long enough
on a batch of fuel to bring the pot to boiling, then either simmer
with minimal tending or (better yet) hold in most of the heat to
simmer with the heat from the coals left from the high power burn.
The stove would burn large or small wood and possibly wetter wood,
which probably means a large combustion chamber. A chimney and a
super stable pot would be nice, and I think that's possible. There
goes the smoke up the chimney. This summer I'll start working on
such a stove, and I will not measure the efficiency, at least not
at first. I will measure, and try to maximize, the amount of time
between fuel feedings. And always keep in mind the question, if my
meals depended on it, would this stove really solve my problems?"
<br>
<br>
Now, that's an innovative approach! Also what we try to see is how
comfortable the stove is for our users. Here, you are bringing
comfort, and improved cooking service. Quicker cooking and less
soot on the pots are our users' preferred benefits.
<br>
Keep us posted on your progresses!
<br>
<br>
But what precisely interests me is how adoption is linked to a
certain size of stove, door, combustion chamber, cooking power.
What we try to do is to build on previous experiences, including
ours, to move forward and get cleaner and cleaner stoves.
<br>
<br>
Best,
<br>
<br>
Xavier
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