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<DIV>Thank you Icecool. This has been a myth for a number of years now.</DIV>
<DIV>the concept is nice but it is not a reality. There is a possibility in the 
theory</DIV>
<DIV>for instance water  maitains 32 degree until it is all all frozen. 
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=icecool@qanet.gm 
href="mailto:icecool@qanet.gm">icecool</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 07, 2016 12:16 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=exiledspirit@gmail.com 
href="mailto:exiledspirit@gmail.com">exiledspirit@gmail.com</A> ; <A 
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org 
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Discussion of biomass cooking 
stoves'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] Solar Powered Stoves 
Relevant?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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Daniel,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>This 
report with the badly photo-shopped pictures turn up somewhere periodically. You 
will not be able to find the product on the market – I guess it doesn’t exist in 
the real world as a commercial product.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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from the ever diminishing jungle<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-US style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stoves 
[mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Daniel-John 
Peterson<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 July 2016 09:32<BR><B>To:</B> 
stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Stoves] Solar Powered Stoves 
Relevant?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>What do others think about solar powered stoves? <o:p></o:p></P>
<P>It seems relevant to our cause but I worry about the pollution involved in 
manufacture and disposal.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>Article below refers to "the Lithium Nitrate acting as a battery storing 
thermal energy for 25 hours at a time. The heat is then released as convection 
for outdoor cooking."... <o:p></o:p></P>
<P><A 
href="http://inhabitat.com/wilson-solar-grill-stores-the-suns-energy-for-nighttime-fuel-free-grilling/">http://inhabitat.com/wilson-solar-grill-stores-the-suns-energy-for-nighttime-fuel-free-grilling/</A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P>I appologies if this is off-topic.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>Daniel<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Jul 6, 2016 2:01 AM, <<A 
href="mailto:stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>> 
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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Contents of Stoves digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>   1. 
Registration for Char Peoduction Gathering 
(CPG2016)<BR>      (Paul Anderson)<BR>   2. 2 
Papers: "Burns, scalds and poisonings from 
household<BR>      energy..." and    
"Emissions...Paraffin Thermoelectric 
Generator"<BR>      (Crispin 
Pemberton-Pigott)<BR>   3. Two papers: "An urban biomass energy 
economy..." and<BR>      "Productive Uses of Basic 
Energy and Fuel Transitions..."<BR>      (Crispin 
Pemberton-Pigott)<BR>   4. Re: [biochar] Re: Registration for Char 
Peoduction Gathering<BR>      (CPG2016) (Paul 
Anderson)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 
1<BR>Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 22:34:44 -0500<BR>From: Paul Anderson <<A 
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</A>><BR>To: Stoves and 
biofuels network <<A 
href="mailto:Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>>,<BR>        
"<A href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</A>" <<A 
href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</A>>,    
Doc Anderson<BR>        <<A 
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</A>><BR>Subject: [Stoves] 
Registration for Char Peoduction Gathering (CPG2016)<BR>Message-ID: <<A 
href="mailto:4b5f4879-5185-e820-d17e-851ce2debc3a@ilstu.edu">4b5f4879-5185-e820-d17e-851ce2debc3a@ilstu.edu</A>><BR>Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<BR><BR>Dear Stovers and Biochar 
folks,<BR><BR>This is about registration at ONE of the four 
consecutive<BR>meetings/workshops/conferences in Oregon, USA from 11 to 25 
August this<BR>year.   Stove Summit, Stove Camp, Char Production 
Gathering, USBI<BR>conference.<BR><BR>Dr TLUD?s _Char Production Gathering 
_(CPG2016)<BR>Summer of 2016<BR>You ?re invited to discover today?s technologies 
and devices for the<BR>PRODUCTION OF CHAR, with focus on small and medium (and 
not expensive)<BR>methods.<BR><BR>Begins Begins : 19 August 2016 at 9:00 
am<BR>Ends: 20 August 2016 at 4:00 pm<BR>Location: Aprovecho Research Center - 
Blue Mountain Campus<BR>76132 Blue Mountain School Rd.<BR>Cottage Grove, OR 
97424<BR><BR>Fee: US$200<BR>*_Registration: <A href="http://drtlud.com/cpg2016" 
target=_blank>http://drtlud.com/cpg2016</A><BR><BR>_*Be sure to join Dr. Paul 
Anderson, Dr. Paul Taylor, and others for a<BR>two-day gathering where we focus 
on a broad array of char production<BR>technologies and related devices. This is 
a hands-on experience with<BR>discussions, experiments, and development of 
various char-making devices.<BR><BR>For all of the latest details about the Char 
Production Gathering,<BR>please visit the registration link above. [Note that 
this event has a<BR>registration separate from that of the Summer Stove Camp at 
Aprovecho.]<BR>We hope to see you there!<BR><BR>In addition to Anderson and 
Taylor, others who will be attending (and<BR>have given permission to announce 
their names) are:<BR>Tom Miles<BR>Hugh McLaughlin<BR>Kelpie Wilson  
(specialties include the flame-curtain devices)<BR>Norm Baker  (bringing 
new equipment and also chip-drying method)<BR>Dean Still<BR><BR>Please register 
soon.   And tell me if you will let me announce that you<BR>will be 
attending.   And please tell your friends and contacts about 
all<BR>four meetings!!!<BR><BR>Paul    (personal replies should 
write to me at: <A href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</A>  
)<BR><BR>--<BR>Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, 
PhD<BR>Email:  <A 
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paultlud    Phone: <A 
href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072">+1-309-452-7072</A><BR>Website:  <A 
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[Stoves] 2 Papers: "Burns,     scalds and poisonings 
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target=_blank>https://independent.academia.edu/t/dHT0D-KX7a0To-n6TNW/DKimemia</A>> 
David Kimemia<BR><BR>Household energy related accidents such as burns and 
poisonings are not included amongst the causes of health burdens from 
residential energy use in the Global Burden of Disease (GBD) and other similar 
assessments. This is a serious omission in the case of transitional 
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low-income, off-grid households. Pollutant emissions from these appliances are a 
potential health hazard and a cause of material soiling by soot deposits. This 
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Re: [Stoves] [biochar] Re: Registration for Char 
Peoduction<BR>        Gathering 
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text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<BR><BR>Ken and all,<BR><BR>Basic 
answer is "yes, there is camping available at the Char Production<BR>Gathering 
CPG2016).".   But please note:<BR><BR>1.  The venue itself (at 
Aprovecho) is not a campsite, but does have a<BR>half acre of grass where people 
have put tents, and there are adequate<BR>showers and toilet facilities.  
Aprovecho is the site of events #2 and<BR>#3, the Stove Camp and then the Char 
Production Gathering, about 6 miles<BR>outside of Cottage Grove, Oregon.  
(site specifics are handled by Mike<BR>of Aprovecho, who is getting this 
message).<BR><BR>2.  Event #1 (Stove Summit) is held at InStove 
headquarters at Colgan's<BR>Island at the edge of Cottage Grove.   
There is potential for camping<BR>there also (handled by Adam who is getting 
this message).<BR><BR>3.  However, event #4 (the USBI Conference) is maybe 
90 minutes drive<BR>northward and at the Oregon State University 
Campus.   So housing there<BR>is to be individually 
arranged.<BR><BR>4.  In prior years, camping fees at Aprovecho and Colgan's 
Island have<BR>been included in the registration costs, and I suspect the same 
for 2016.<BR><BR>To Adam and Mike:  please send a message to the Stoves 
Listserv about<BR>the Stove Summit plans, and Stove Camp plans, 
respectively.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR><BR>Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  
Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD<BR>Email:  <A 
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[biochar] wrote:<BR>><BR>> Paul,<BR>><BR>><BR>> Is there camping 
available at this event, gathering?<BR>><BR>> Thanks,<BR>><BR>> 
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