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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Ron, List<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is now 25 years since a friend of mine wrote “the road from Pretoria to Nairobi is littered with discarded solar cookers.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, they work – as long as the sun is shining. It takes one cloudy day, and an evening with hungry, screaming kids, to convince you that it is a supplement at best, not a solution. Then you lose a meal to a passer-by, or some voracious monkeys, and you begin to doubt its efficacy even as a supplement. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have heard noises of success elsewhere in the world. Equally, I came across a sociologist’s contribution (now lost) which said in effect that cooking was something with which you had to be personally involved, to stir, to taste, to season, to judge when it was cooked. Leaving the cooking alone for a few hours was psychologically unsettling.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Keep stoving!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Philip Lloyd <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronal W. Larson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Deniz.Ispaylar@onedollarglasses.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Patricia Roberts; Discussion of biomass<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] NGO is looking for a stove update in production process<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Deniz, cc List and Patty<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>1. Yours is a most wonderful organization. Congratulations to the many of you in 8 countries - clearly providing a very valuable new service.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>2. I have read two responses on bio- stoves that will work. I normally would agree that a TLUD (charcoal-making) stove would be a best alternative. But please try to avoid using charcoal in most locations - where its remote, crude production is even (appropriately) apt to be illegal.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>But all biomass stoves routinely operate at temperatures an order of magnitude larger than you desire.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>3. I suggest instead thinking of solar cookers. See SCI at <a href="http://www.solarcookers.org/index.php">http://www.solarcookers.org/index.php</a>. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>A good friend and neighbor (cc'd) has been on the SCI board and she and her (excellent Engineer) husband would be pleased to communicate on best (least cost) solar cooker designs. Reaching 120 C is trivial. Solar sizes could be provided from heat-shrinking one at a time up to thousands. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>4. It was not clear from your website whether you desired to have this heat shrinking occur at central factory locations or at the point of sale. Or differently stated, why did you mention 10 minutes? It could be that electrical heating is even a good choice - assuming the kWh for one pair is as low/cheap as I guess - using remote PV. This, with modest battery storage, could even allow final heat-shrinking at night - and probably an application for 1 minute - not ten.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>5. I (and many on this list) have continuing possible non-stove contacts in a number of countries beyond your present eight. Solar cookers are now being used everywhere. How are you selecting countries into which you will expand?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jul 19, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Deniz Ispaylar [OneDollarGlasses] <<a href="mailto:Deniz.Ispaylar@onedollarglasses.org">Deniz.Ispaylar@onedollarglasses.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>Dear cooking stoves experts,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>I am working for the non-profit NGO <a href="http://www.eindollarbrille.de/">OneDollarGlasses</a>. We have the mission to set up a social business in development countries worldwide to provide <b>high-quality and affordable glasses</b> to people in need. The glasses are produced by locals in these countries. To ensure that the manufacturing is possible and reliable at any time we have developed a <b>currentless production process</b>. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>One part of this process is to <b>heat</b> <b>shrinking</b> <b>tubes</b> with a <b>stove</b> (attachment 1 and attachment 2). For us it seems like that the current stove which we are using is outdated, not healthy neither for the manufacturer nor for the nature and inefficient. So we are looking for some <b>new technologies of stoves</b> which we can implement in our production process. This is the reason why I am addressing this email to you to get expert-input.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>The shrinking tube (attachment 3) is made out of irradiati<span class=b1>on</span><span class=b2> crosslinked Polyolefin and has a <b>shrinking temperature of +120°C</b>. Attachment 4 gives some more information on the shrinking tubes (unfortunately this is only available in German, but easy to translate). </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=b2><span style='color:#454545'>The requirements of the new stove are </span></span><span style='color:#454545'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#454545;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>that we do have a temperature of roundabout <b>+120°C</b> somewhere near the stove<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#454545;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>that the <b>temperature</b> should be reached really <b>fast</b><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#454545;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>that the <b>combustion</b> last for at least <b>10</b> <b>minutes</b><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#454545;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>that we can use <b>charcoal</b><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#454545;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>that the <b>combustion</b> is <b>high</b> <b>efficient</b> and has a <b>low</b>-<b>emission</b><o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>Maybe there is a stove out there, that suits our needs. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>I would be more than happy to get some feedback and/or input and can`t wait to start into a discussion on how we can improve our production process. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>Warmest regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>Deniz<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#454545'>______________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>Deniz Ispaylar</span><span style='color:#454545'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>Country Coordinator Malawi</span><span style='color:#454545'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p 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