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<DIV>Todd at Silverfire has unfortunately pointed out a truly sad state of
affairs. There are many great stoves of all kinds.</DIV>
<DIV>However the world shipping industry has now managed to make it near
impossible for people to get samples</DIV>
<DIV>for experimental or testing.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Probably the most extreme example was the TLUD stove made in
Indonesia. The stove costs about a nominal 20.00 USD</DIV>
<DIV>but shipping it to the Marshall Islands was in the hundreds. It was finally
shipped, swapped, hand carried and mailed: Indonesia to Europe
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<DIV>to the USA to the Marshall Islands. Absolutely absurd but a true testament
to all sharing bond of stove advocates workers and supporters all </DIV>
<DIV>the way around the world. A really epic journey.</DIV>
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<DIV>HAIL ALL WHO HELPED </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=todd.r.albi@gmail.com
href="mailto:todd.r.albi@gmail.com">Todd Albi</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:05 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] NGO is looking for a stove update in
production process</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Deniz:
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<DIV>Off the shelf micro TLUD gasifier:</DIV>
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<DIV>Available in brushed 304SS or economy 201 SS, with or without pot, fire
starter, & utensils (in event interested in not wasting time with tin cans
with short duration stove life). Bad news International postage fees $46
to Germany. All configurations ship at the 1 KG package rate, so
best value complete 304 SS Ultimate Scout kit.</DIV>
<DIV><A href="wlmailhtml:goog_1494191964"><BR></A></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.silverfire.us/304-stainless-steel-scout-stove">http://www.silverfire.us/304-stainless-steel-scout-stove</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Todd Albi, SilverFire</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:sales@silverfire.us">sales@silverfire.us</A></DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.silverfire.us">www.silverfire.us</A></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Deniz Ispaylar
[OneDollarGlasses] <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">Dear Paul,
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<DIV>thanks for the hint towards very small TLUD micro gasifier. But we are
somehow more interested in using charcoal as we don`t have a proper wood
supply where we are based in Malawi. What I mean is that the locals cutting
down uncontrolled huge areas of forest in order to have some wood for their
firing. So we decided not to support that even when we are not sure where the
charcoals comes from…</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But maybe you can convince us that wood is better to use instead of
charcoal though? I liked the point with the fast ignition of wood a lot. How
can the made charcoal with TLUD mirco-gasifier be used afterwards?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>And where can we buy those mirco-gasifier?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>Deniz<BR>
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<DIV>Am 19.07.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Paul Anderson <<A
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"
target=_blank>psanders@ilstu.edu</A>>:</DIV>
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Dear Deniz,<BR><BR>You have asked the
correct group for advice. There are several options that you
could consider.<BR><BR>I will advocate that you consider a very small TLUD
(tee-lud) micro-gasifier, and I will assist you if you desire that type of
heat source.<BR><BR>Please see my website <A
href="http://www.drtlud.com/" target=_blank>www.drtlud.com</A>
for the basics about the technology, but very little about units that are as
small as you will desire (but I can assist you about the very small
ones.)<BR><BR>HOWEVER, these stoves do NOT use charcoal.
(actually they make charcoal, but that is a different side of the
story). Charcoal is notoriously slow to ignite, which is one of
your requirements.<BR><BR>I assume that you have already considered using a
candle (or a few candles). The very small TLUD micro-gasifiers
can provide the amount of heat you need. They are very clean
burning even at cookstove sizes, so the tiny TLUD that you need COULD
probably be used indoors (depends on room size and ventilation
issues).<BR><BR>Looking forward to assisting you. You may reply
via the Stoves Listserv because some readers are interested in such topics,
but eventually for detailled work we would use my personal email address
which is <A href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"
target=_blank>psanders@ilstu.edu</A> <BR><BR>Paul<BR><PRE cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <A href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target=_blank>psanders@ilstu.edu</A>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <A href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" target=_blank value="+13094527072">+1-309-452-7072</A>
Website: <A href="http://www.drtlud.com/" target=_blank>www.drtlud.com</A></PRE>
<DIV>On 7/19/2016 8:37 AM, Deniz Ispaylar [OneDollarGlasses]
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal">Dear
cooking stoves experts,</DIV>
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style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"> </DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal">I am
working for the non-profit NGO <A href="http://www.eindollarbrille.de/"
target=_blank>OneDollarGlasses</A>. We have the mission to set up a social
business in development countries worldwide to provide <B>high-quality and
affordable glasses</B> to people in need. The glasses are produced by
locals in these countries. To ensure that the manufacturing is possible
and reliable at any time we have developed a <B>currentless production
process</B>. </DIV>
<DIV
style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"> </DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal">One
part of this process is to <B>heat</B> <B>shrinking</B> <B>tubes</B> with
a <B>stove</B> (attachment 1 and attachment 2). For us it seems like that
the current stove which we are using is outdated, not healthy neither for
the manufacturer nor for the nature and inefficient. So we are looking for
some <B>new technologies of stoves</B> which we can implement in our
production process. This is the reason why I am addressing this email to
you to get expert-input.</DIV>
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style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"> </DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal">The
shrinking tube (attachment 3) is made out of
irradiati<SPAN>on</SPAN><SPAN> crosslinked Polyolefin and has a
<B>shrinking temperature of +120°C</B>. Attachment 4 gives some more
information on the shrinking tubes (unfortunately this is only available
in German, but easy to translate). </SPAN></DIV>
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style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN>The
requirements of the new stove are </SPAN></DIV>
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style="COLOR: rgb(69,69,69); MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<LI>that we do have a temperature of roundabout <B>+120°C</B> somewhere
near the stove
<LI>that the <B>temperature</B> should be reached really <B>fast</B>
<LI>that the <B>combustion</B> last for at least <B>10</B>
<B>minutes</B>
<LI>that we can use <B>charcoal</B>
<LI>that the <B>combustion</B> is <B>high</B> <B>efficient</B> and has a
<B>low</B>-<B>emission</B> </LI></UL>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Maybe there is a stove out there, that suits our needs. :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would be more than happy to get some feedback and/or input and
can`t wait to start into a discussion on how we can improve our production
process. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Warmest regards</DIV>
<DIV>Deniz</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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