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Deniz,<br>
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Please clarify where the operation (heat shrinking) will be done
(Germany?, other countries?, remote locations?,) and in how many
locations. <br>
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If you need ONE unit in an equiped facility, that is very different
from needing a dozen units that are dispursed in small workshops.<br>
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There are solutions for either situation.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/26/2016 4:07 AM, Deniz Ispaylar
[OneDollarGlasses] wrote:<br>
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Dear Ron,
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<div class="">Thanks and warmest regards</div>
<div class="">Deniz</div>
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<div class="">Am 19.07.2016 um 20:35 schrieb Ronal W. Larson
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Deniz, cc List and Patty
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>1.
Yours is a most wonderful organization.
Congratulations to the many of you in 8 countries -
clearly providing a very valuable new service.</div>
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<div>Thank you Ron, that honors us.</div>
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>2.
I have read two responses on bio- stoves that will
work. I normally would agree that a TLUD
(charcoal-making) stove would be a best alternative.
But please try to avoid using charcoal in most
locations - where its remote, crude production is even
(appropriately) apt to be illegal.</div>
<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>But
all biomass stoves routinely operate at temperatures
an order of magnitude larger than you desire.</div>
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<div>We will definitely need to find out where our charcoal is
coming from. But nethertheless the wood supply isn’t proper
neither as there is no control. </div>
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>3.
I suggest instead thinking of solar cookers. See SCI
at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.solarcookers.org/index.php"
class="">http://www.solarcookers.org/index.php</a>.
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>A
good friend and neighbor (cc'd) has been on the SCI
board and she and her (excellent Engineer) husband
would be pleased to communicate on best (least cost)
solar cooker designs. Reaching 120 C is trivial.
Solar sizes could be provided from heat-shrinking one
at a time up to thousands. </div>
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<div>Thanks for the hint, solar cookers are interesting. But
we do have a lot of cloudy days and in the solar cookers
wiki it says that "the fuel" for these types of cookers is
sun. </div>
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>4.
It was not clear from your website whether you
desired to have this heat shrinking occur at central
factory locations or at the point of sale. Or
differently stated, why did you mention 10 minutes?
It could be that electrical heating is even a good
choice - assuming the kWh for one pair is as low/cheap
as I guess - using remote PV. This, with modest
battery storage, could even allow final heat-shrinking
at night - and probably an application for 1 minute -
not ten.</div>
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<div>We are not thinking of implementing something electrial
in our system as this system is to complex. We want to keep
it simple. Easy to repair and to replace.</div>
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>5.
I (and many on this list) have continuing possible
non-stove contacts in a number of countries beyond
your present eight. Solar cookers are now being used
everywhere. How are you selecting countries into
which you will expand?</div>
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<div>Thanks Ron for the hint. In contrast to our production
process our selection process is very complex as it is
important to decided where to put all the energy first and
being able to grow.</div>
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<div class="">On Jul 19, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Deniz
Ispaylar [OneDollarGlasses] <<a
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<div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;
color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Dear
cooking stoves experts,</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;
color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">I am
working for the non-profit NGO <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.eindollarbrille.de/"
class="">OneDollarGlasses</a>. We have the
mission to set up a social business in
development countries worldwide to provide <b
class="">high-quality and affordable
glasses</b> to people in need. The glasses
are produced by locals in these countries.
To ensure that the manufacturing is possible
and reliable at any time we have developed a
<b class="">currentless production process</b>. </div>
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color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;"
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<div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;
color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">One part
of this process is to
<b class="">heat</b> <b class="">shrinking</b>
<b class="">tubes</b> with a <b class="">
stove</b> (attachment 1 and attachment 2).
For us it seems like that the current stove
which we are using is outdated, not healthy
neither for the manufacturer nor for the
nature and inefficient. So we are looking
for some
<b class="">new technologies of stoves</b>
which we can implement in our production
process. This is the reason why I am
addressing this email to you to get
expert-input.</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;
color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">The
shrinking tube (attachment 3) is made out of
irradiati<span class="b1">on</span><span
class="b2"> crosslinked Polyolefin and has
a
<b class="">shrinking temperature of
+120°C</b>. Attachment 4 gives some more
information on the shrinking tubes
(unfortunately this is only available in
German, but easy to translate). </span></div>
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color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><span
class="b2"><br class="">
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<div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;
color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><span
class="b2">The requirements of the new
stove are </span></div>
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color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><span
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<ul class="MailOutline">
<li class="">that we do have a temperature
of roundabout <b class="">+120°C</b>
somewhere near the stove</li>
<li class="">that the <b class="">temperature</b>
should be reached really <b class="">
fast</b></li>
<li class="">that the <b class="">combustion</b>
last for at least <b class="">10</b>
<b class="">minutes</b></li>
<li class="">that we can use <b class="">charcoal</b></li>
<li class="">that the <b class="">combustion</b>
is <b class="">high</b> <b class="">
efficient</b> and has a <b class="">low</b>-<b
class="">emission</b></li>
</ul>
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<div class="">Maybe there is a stove out
there, that suits our needs. :-)</div>
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<div class="">I would be more than happy to
get some feedback and/or input and can`t
wait to start into a discussion on how we
can improve our production process. </div>
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<div class="">Warmest regards</div>
<div class="">Deniz</div>
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