<div dir="ltr">You are correct on my error. I will be going back to Portland on the 25th. Thanks for catching that. Bruce<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Bruce and all,<br>
<br>
I know that your arrival in Portland is too late to match up with
Hugh McLaughlin for sharing ride with him. Maybe others will
contact you.<br>
<br>
I have been to Crater Lake and it is FANTASTIC. Even if not
pre-arranged, some people at the Char gatthering might want to join
you on that 1 day adventure. <br>
<br>
Your message said you are returning to Portland on the 18th (which
is actually your arrival date). You probably meant Aug 25 or 26.
There will be numerous people at the USBI meeting who might be
seeking a ride on either date.<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing your travel plans and for your willingness to
assist others.<span class=""><br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank">+1-309-452-7072</a>
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</span><div><div class="h5"><div>On 8/1/2016 9:14 AM, Bruce Stahlberg
wrote:<br>
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<div>Greetings Paul and others, <br>
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I have narrowed down my travel plans so decided to
share in case it works out to drive with someone or
provide a ride. I may rent a car (leaning that way)
and if so could provide a ride(s). <br>
<br>
</div>
<div>The two events I will attend are the two days
(Friday/Saturday) Char Production Gathering in Cottage
Grove and the BioChar conference in Corvalis, OR. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
I will arrive at the Portland airport on August 18th,
3:00 PM. Making my way down to Cottage Grove on the
18th. <br>
</div>
After the CPG there is a small break before being in
Corvalis for the start of the conference. I am
considering a trip to Crater Lake (2.5 hours from Cottage
Grove, 5 hours to Corvalis from Crater Lake) if I end up
renting a car but this is not set in stone. If there was
interest it is a possibility. <br>
<br>
</div>
Will be returning to Portland on the 18th. <br>
<br>
</div>
If anyone wants to contact me for possible ride sharing
call/text or email.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Thanks Paul for sending out this email. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Bruce Stahlberg<br>
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Bruce (message below) raises the question
about ride sharing. This is a way for
people to assist each other, so we need good
communications:<br>
<br>
1. TWO main categories: Initial
arrival and At events/between
events<br>
<br>
2. The easy one is "At and between
events". My experience is that there are
usually multiple cars with drivers willing
to help others. You meet these people at
the events and connections happen easily.
For the major shift (which is after the 3
events at Cottage Grove) to go to Corvallis
for the USBI conference, there should be
plenty of cars leaving sometime after 4 PM
Saturday and with arrival by Monday morning
for USBI pre-conference events. Exactly
when each vehicle is moving is not known.
But people with cars (and possibly a spare
seat or two) include:<br>
Paul Anderson<br>
James Schoner<br>
Paul Taylor<br>
Tom Miles<br>
Hugh McLaughlin<br>
Kelpie Wilson <br>
Norm Baker<br>
Probably 3 or more others. (please add
your names if you could help with transport)<br>
Who rides with whom and when will be worked
out/finalized on Saturday. <br>
NOTE: What people do on Sunday 21 August
is wide open. I suspect that people will
match up according to their interests.<br>
<br>
3. The "Initial Arrival" issue is more
complicated because of so many different
dates, times, places of arrival into
Oregon. Eugene Oregon airport is maybe 20
minutes from Cottage Grove. If you are
registering for one or more of the 3 events
in Cottage Grove, contact the organizers of
each event, with information about times of
arrival. <br>
<br>
Arrival at Portland airport is a bit
further away. But ride sharing should be
possible. <br>
<br>
BEST if those who NEED transportation
assistance tell us all when you are arriving
where. <br>
<br>
4. JUST IN CASE it might help some, note
that some of us are driving long distances
(starting outside of Oregon) and perhaps
shared driving time and fuel costs might
match someone's interests. <br>
A. Paul Anderson is driving from central
Illinois on 7 or 8 August with arrival in
Cottage Grove on Wed. 10 August.<br>
B. James Schoner is driving from central
Arizona <br>
C. Norm Baker is coming from Seattle, but
might have a full vehicle already.<br>
D. Several others (unknown)<br>
<br>
<pre cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank">+1-309-452-7072</a>
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<div>On 7/19/2016 12:22 PM, Affordable
Energy wrote:<br>
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<div>Paul </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It would be helpful for possible ride
sharing between events if there could be
coordination between attendees. I could
either be looking for a ride or possibly
rent and therefore be able to offer a
ride. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Any ideas on how to put attendees in
touch with one another? My email can be
shared with my permission. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks and see you in AUGUST.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bruce<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Jul 18, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Paul
Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div> Mike,<br>
<br>
Thanks for that info about Stove Camp
2016. That info will be made
available also at my website where
there is info and links to ALL FOUR
stove and biochar event between 11 and
25 August (first three in Cottage
Grove Oregon, and then US Biochar
Initiative conference in Corvallis,
Oregon. <br>
1. Stove Summit<br>
2. Stove Camp<br>
3. Char Production Gathering (CPG)<br>
4. USBI<br>
<br>
I will be at all 4 events and look
forward to seeing many of you there.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank">+1-309-452-7072</a>
Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div>On 7/18/2016 3:29 PM, Mike
Hatfield wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Stove
Camp August 15 - 19, 2016</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Aprovecho
Research Center</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Cottage
Grove, Oregon</span></b></p>
<p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Symbol">·<span>
</span></span><span>As always,
Stove Camp will give folks a
chance to test stoves with the
two emissions hoods. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Symbol">·<span>
</span></span><span>Two
classes per day include how to
make 5 new ‘Tier 4’ stoves
developed with DOE funding.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Symbol">·<span>
</span></span><span>Learn from
Kirk Harris and Dr. TLUD how
to make a new generation of
super clean TLUDs with turn
down!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Symbol">·<span>
</span></span><span>See PM 2.5
lowered 75% with inexpensive
filters!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>A $250
prize is awarded to the team
that makes the most progress,
proven by testing here in the
lab, on the creation of a $10
‘Tier 4’ stove.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Food
will be purchased and prepared
by the campers (to keep costs
as low as possible) on TLUDs,
forced draft stoves, retained
heat cookers, beautiful new
ovens, Rocket stoves, charcoal
stove, etc. There will be lots
of music, great conversation,
contemplative walks in the new
Lazy Path Garden, watching the
moon and stars, and swimming
in the river 300 yards from
the lab. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The
cost is $400 for the week.
Camp on site (free) or stay in
town in a motel. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>For all
details contact: </span><a href="mailto:mikehatfield@aprovecho.org" target="_blank"><span>mike@aprovecho.org</span></a><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><b><span>Stove</span></b></span><b><span>
<span>Camp</span> 2016
Schedule</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>76132
Blue Mountain School Road<br>
Cottage Grove, OR 97424<br>
<a href="tel:541%20767%200287" value="+15417670287" target="_blank">541 767 0287</a>
</span><a href="http://www.aprovecho.org/" target="_blank"><span>www.aprovecho.org</span></a><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><br>
"Go east on Mosby Creek Road
from Cottage Grove. Do not
take the big left turn but
continue straight up the hill
on Blue Mountain School Road.
We’re in the school buildings
across from the park on the
river.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Sunday
August 14</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Times New Roman,
serif">Arrive and set up </font><span>camp</span><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Times New Roman,
serif">. Meet Dean Still and
the interns, have a cup of
great coffee, watch the
river, read Sam Baldwin's
chapter on heat transfer
(Biomass Stoves: Engineering
Design, Development, and
Dissemination on the web).
Make dinner with other
campers on modern wood fired
stoves. </font><br>
<br>
<b><font face="arial,
helvetica, sans-serif">Monday
August 15</font></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">Breakfast:
Campers make breakfast on
wood burning stoves. Don’t
burn the oatmeal!</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="line-height:107%">9-10:00am
</span></b><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:107%">Introductions.<b>
</b>Discuss/Create Agenda.
Join a scientific team to win
the prize! Create the best $10
‘Tier 4’ stove. Voting at end
of week by campers.</span><br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b>10:00- 11am</b>
Dr. Larry Winiarski on Rocket
Design Principles<b> </b></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b><span style="line-height:107%">11am-12am</span></b><span style="line-height:107%">
Kirk Harris and Dr. Paul
Anderson explain new
advances with TLUDs</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b><span style="line-height:107%">12-2pm</span></b><span style="line-height:107%">
Make
Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b>2-4pm</b>
Introduction to testing equip
(Lab Hood, WBT, CCT and Test
Kitchen). Test stoves under
the emission hoods! </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b>4-5pm</b> The
new Department of Energy
project ‘Tier 4’ stoves!
(Dean)</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b>5-7pm</b>
Make Dinner, Music, and
Frivolity</font><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span>Tuesday
August 16</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span>Breakfast:
Campers make breakfast on wood
burning stoves.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>7-9am</span></b><span>
Breakfast. Campers make
breakfast on wood burning
stoves.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>9--9:30am</span></b><span>
Discuss number crunching from
previous day’s testing (Sam,
Dennis, Jessie)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>9-30
-10:30am</span></b><span> Charcoal
stoves, Filters, and Retained
Heat (Dean, Sam)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>10:30
– 12am</span></b><span> Test
stoves and teams start to make
$10 “Tier 4” stoves with ARC
staff and Dr. TLUD</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>12-2pm
</span></b><span>Make
Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>2pm
to 4pm </span></b><span>Test
stoves and make stoves with
ARC staff and Dr. TLUD</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>4-5pm</span></b><span>
Field Experiences (Mike and
Sam)<br>
<b>5-7pm</b> – Pizza Party -
BBQ – Music - Great
conversation.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Wednesday
August 17</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>7-9am</span></b><span>
Breakfast: Campers make
breakfast on wood burning
stoves.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>9-9:30am</span></b><span>
Discuss number crunching from
previous day (Sam)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>9:30-10:30am</span></b><span> Heat
Transfer & Combustion
Efficiency (Dean)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>10:30am-12</span></b><span>
Building and testing stoves
with ARC staff and Dr. TLUD</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>12-2pm
</span></b><span>Make
Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>2-3pm</span></b><span> Talk
on <span>stove</span>
politics/<span>stove</span>
dissemination (Dean, Mike,
Fred)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>3-5pm</span></b><span>
Continue building and testing
with ARC staff, Kirk Harris,
and Dr. TLUD</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>5-7pm
</span></b><span>Make Dinner,
Music, and Frivolity</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><br>
<b>Thursday, August 18</b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span> <b>7-9am</b>
Breakfast: Campers make
breakfast on wood burning
stoves.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>9-9:30am</span></b><span>
Discuss number crunching from
previous day (Sam)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>9:30-10:30am</span></b><span> $10
‘Tier 4’ Stoves! What are we
learning? (Dean)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>10:30am-12</span></b><span>
Building and testing stoves
with ARC staff, Kirk Harris,
and Dr. TLUD</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>12-2pm
</span></b><span>Make
Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>2-3pm</span></b><span> Experiences
with TLUDs (Paul)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>3-5pm</span></b><span>
Iterations of team stoves and
testing with ARC staff, Kirk
Harris, and Dr. TLUD</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>5-7pm
</span></b><span>Bread Night
at the Axe and Fiddle!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Friday
August 19</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span>7-9am</span></b><span>
Breakfast: Campers make
breakfast on wood burning
stoves.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>9-10:30am</span></b><span>
Discuss number crunching from
previous day. How far did we
get?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>10:30am-12:00</span></b><span>
Presentation of stoves by
inventors/Discussion/Voting
for prize!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>12:00</span></b><span> Presentation
of award</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>We go
change the world one stove at
a time. Keep in touch and help
our friends!</span></p>
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Statistically, the
probability of any one of
us being here is so small
that you'd think the mere
fact of existing would
keep us all in a contented
dazzlement of surprise
-Lewis Thomas<br>
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the unknown infinite,
intellectually we stand
on an islet in the mist
of an illimitable ocean
of inexplicability. Our
business in every
generation is to reclaim
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