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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is an interesting blog that underlines the problem with present modelling:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/28/fail-carbon-financed-cookstove-fails-to-deliver-hoped-for-benefits-in-the-field/" target="_blank">https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/28/fail-carbon-financed-cookstove-fails-to-deliver-hoped-for-benefits-in-the-field/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In this case it is fairly clear the lab work was not guided by any field study. The field work showed the user needed to simmer during the cooking cycle, which wasn’t taken into account when the new stove was specified.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is no point in WHO modelling emissions to within a mg/m<sup>3</sup> if the user can operate at 100 times that level. Emissions must be matched to fuel, stove and the full burn sequence during cooking if there is to be any hope of avoiding this type of debacle.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Prof Philip Lloyd<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Energy Institute, CPUT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>SARETEC, Sachs Circle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bellville<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel 021 959 4323<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cell 083 441 5247<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>PA Nadia 021 959 4330<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronal W. Larson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 8, 2016 12:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> Traveller; Discussion of biomass<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] News 7 September 2016: "Clean Cookstoves Need Better Performance Guidelines" (ES&T)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nikhil and list:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>This just came in for 5 days from now. Happens to be heavy on WHO.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The key link is <o:p></o:p></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=856 style='width:642.0pt;background:#DBE5F1;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.15pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=850 style='width:637.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.6pt'><a href="https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6749480047610317058"><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>This webinar</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal>which takes you to: <a href="https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6749480047610317058">https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6749480047610317058</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>I suggest waiting until after this webinar to answer your questions about WHO and stoves.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=864 style='width:648.2pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid #299F2F 1.5pt;border-bottom:none;border-right:solid #299F2F 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div align=center><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=766 style='width:574.5pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:7.5pt 7.5pt 7.5pt 7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-align:center;mso-line-height-alt:14.15pt'><strong><i><span style='font-size:19.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Using Stove Emissions Data to Estimate Air Quality:</span></i></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-bottom:13.5pt;text-align:center;mso-line-height-alt:14.15pt'><strong><i><span style='font-size:17.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>An overview of World Health Organization current modeling approaches and future plans</span></i></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;mso-line-height-alt:14.15pt'><strong><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tuesday, September 13, 2016</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;line-height:14.15pt'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>11:00 AM - 12:30 PM EDT / 8:00 AM – 9:30 AM PDT</span></strong></span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div></td></tr><tr><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid #299F2F 1.5pt;border-bottom:none;border-right:solid #299F2F 1.5pt;background:#569C6A;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.15pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid #299F2F 1.5pt;border-bottom:none;border-right:solid #299F2F 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><div align=center><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="98%" style='width:98.0%;background:#56A568;border-collapse:collapse;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><tr><td width=400 style='width:300.0pt;background:#DBE5F1;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=856 style='width:642.0pt;border-collapse:collapse;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.15pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=850 style='width:637.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.6pt'><a href="https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6749480047610317058"><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>This webinar</span></a><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> will provide background on how stove emissions can be related to concentrations of indoor air quality and vice versa. The modeling approach to be described is the same as that used for the development of the emissions guidance in the International Workshop Agreement 11:2012: </span><a href="https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:iwa:11:ed-1:v1:en"><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>Guidelines for evaluating cookstove performance</span></a><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>; and the </span><a href="http://www.who.int/indoorair/guidelines/hhfc/en/"><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>WHO Guidelines for Indoor Air Quality: Household Fuel Combustion</span></a><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.6pt'><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.6pt'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In addition to describing how the model can be used to estimate air quality or derive emissions targets, the presentation will include background on the WHO’s work on providing guidance in the household energy sector and planned future activities. These future activities include expanding the model’s capabilities (e.g., accounting for stove stacking), as well as providing an interactive web version of the model for which regionally-based data can be input for more relevant local application. The webinar will conclude with a discussion on policy implications, and the interpretation and application of performance targets. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.6pt'><span style='font-size:5.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.6pt'><b><u><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Webinar speakers include:</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Heather Adair-Rohani, Technical Officer, Department of Public Health, Environmental and Social Determinants of Health, World Health Organization</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-size:3.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nigel Bruce, Professor of Public Health, Department of Public Health and Policy, University of Liverpool; Consultant, World Health Organization</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-size:3.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Michael Johnson, Senior Scientist, Berkeley Air Monitoring Group</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.15pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Register today </span></b><a href="https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6749480047610317058"><b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>HERE</span></b></a><b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>!</span></b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Webinar participation is free. For the web portion, a high-speed internet connection is required. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-weight:normal'>The webinar technology allows attendees to listen to audio through their computer or by phone.</span></strong><b> </b>Additional log-in information will be provided upon registration</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>. </span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For more information on this webinar, please contact: </span><a href="mailto:moderator@cookstovesandindoorair.org"><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>moderator@cookstovesandindoorair.org</span></a><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.15pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 7, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Traveller <<a href="mailto:miata98@gmail.com">miata98@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Clean Cookstoves Need Better Performance Guidelines Daniel L. Wilson, LBNL<br><br><a href="http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.5b05628">http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.5b05628</a> <br><br>"However, while emission rate and indoor concentration are mechanistrically linked, indoor concentrations from episodic sourcese are not meaningfully linked with respiratory intake or uptake.4 The implicit assumption of today’s standards is that a cookstove with lower emission rates will lead to lower indoor concentrations of pollutants and will therefore be safer for the user. However, this assumption is not necessarily true."<br><br>Amen. <br><br>What next? Would somebody talk about cooking deaths and the basis of WHO IAQ Guidelines? <br><br>Or about what service standard a "performance standard" is to be sought to linked to? <br><br>Or whether exposure changes and disease incidence can be predicted over the next 30 years with any degree of reliability? <br><br>Who are scientists accountable to, even when they are (or not) accountable to themselves? <br><br>Time to bring on lawyers and economists to examine proper use of taxpayers' money. (Foundations are subsidized via tax exemptions.)<br><br>Would anybody consider going back to the basics - what is cooking, why is cooking, who is cooking, how is cooking? <br><br>Nikhil<br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>