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Alex,<br>
<br>
That is a great idea. I especially like the suggestion that
someone else makes the diagram!!! <br>
<br>
I am sending this message to my 3 co-author who could actually
access the numbers needed to do the Sankey diagram and other
analyses. They are not less-vested researchers, but they could
certainly be well motivated. Especially for the purposes of
documentation for carbon credit purposes, good data is better than
qualitative statements. <br>
<br>
Perhaps some university students in Kolkata area or in Germany near
atmosfair might gather the data and do the analyses / diagram.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/2016 8:53 AM, alex english
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+6hwOoAZVZpURHWA6xa0OFDnRi5QM=znzisawPx9W+pop2G5w@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Paul,
<div>Thanks. I would encourage you, or perhaps a third party
less invested researcher, to produce a Sankey diagram </div>
<div> ( <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankey_diagram">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankey_diagram</a>
) of the Champion stove and the entire energy system around it
that you have introduced into the Deganga area. It can be
included as part of a life cycle assement. It won't cover
social impacts but it summarizes data at a glance</div>
<div>Crispin did this for some tested stoves. I hope he posts a
link to them again.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Alex</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Paul
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> see below<br>
<pre class="m_6960100288658698537moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_6960100288658698537moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
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Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_6960100288658698537moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="m_6960100288658698537moz-cite-prefix">On
10/1/2016 8:00 PM, alex english wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Paul,<br>
It is good to see this report. You have persevered.
</p>
<p dir="ltr">The charcoal was purchased back for 12
cents/kg. What happened to it next? Was it used in
the form it was produced? </p>
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I do not know about the form. Some might be
briquetted. But it was sold to restaurants and small
industry for burning.<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p dir="ltr">If these homes wanted to buy charcoal
what would it cost? </p>
</blockquote>
NOT available for purchase by the households. Carbon
credit agreement requires that it be used to replace
traditionally made charcoal.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p dir="ltr">Did this new supply have any change the
local market price?<br>
</p>
</blockquote>
<br>
I do not know. I will try to have more answers in the
follow-up article about 2016 activities / expansions.<br>
<br>
I hope that some other locations will be interested in
some similar locally-focused TLUD stove projects.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p dir="ltr"> Congratulations.<br>
Alex</p>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 30, 2016 11:45 PM,
"Paul Anderson" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Dear all,<br>
<div
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876moz-forward-container">
<br>
Four co-authors have written an detailed
article about a highly successful and
on-going TLUD gasifier stove project in
Deganga, an area of the Ganges Delta in
India. Please read it, share it with
others, and give consideraton about how you
and your projects might build upon the
lessons learned.<br>
<br>
<p
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876MsoNoSpacing"
style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">Case Study of
Acceptance of Champion TLUD Gasifier
Stoves</span></b></p>
<p
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876MsoNoSpacing"
style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">in the
Deganga Area, Ganges Delta, India</span></b></p>
<p
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876MsoNoSpacing"
style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">[Data as of
early 2016; released in September
2016]</span></b></p>
<p
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876MsoNoSpacing"
style="text-align:center" align="center"> </p>
<p
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876MsoNoSpacing"> </p>
On the Internet at: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://drtlud.com/deganga-tlud-project-2016"
target="_blank">http://drtlud.com/deganga-tlud<wbr>-project-2016</a><br>
And attached as a .pdf file.<br>
<br>
<p
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876MsoNoSpacing"><b>Summary:<span>
</span></b></p>
<p
class="m_6960100288658698537m_5218508618262865876MsoNoSpacing"><span>
</span>With field data to document earlier
challenges and current success, as of
early 2016 the Deganga TLUD Project in the
Ganges Delta has over 11,000 Champion
micro-gasifier stoves in a small rural
area.<span> </span>In seven villages,
between 25% and 40% of households have
adopted the stove.<span> </span>Factors
contributing to the success include
funding via carbon offsets, attaining
critical mass of households, adequate
supplies of appropriate fuel, fuel cost
savings, installment payments for the BOP
(Base of the Pyramid), and stove
maintenance services.<span> </span>Unique
to this project, and very well received by
the households, is the creation of
household income from the sales of
charcoal byproducts produced in the stove
while cooking.<span> </span>Similar
results should be possible in other
communities in developing societies.<br>
</p>
<p
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<br>
</p>
Speaking personally, I have wanted this type
of result for many many years. I thank my
co-authors for making it happen. Now we can
look forward to replications and variations
of this study to provide the quality of TLUD
gasifier stoves wherever needed around the
world.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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