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Crispin, (with apologies to everyone else.)<br>
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Come on Crispin, get off it. You are just causing confusion
regarding the estabilished terminology!!! It is easy to mis-use
words and descriptive acronyms, but you of all people should know
better about what TLUD signifies. Do not put yourself down with
such silly talk!!<br>
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Besides, in your next message (addressed to Andrew and the
Listserv), YOU wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">It looks and acts like a TLUD but has zero
air coming from below. <br>
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How can you imply that "zero air coming from below" is somehow an
"up draft"? And then to call it a TLUD?<br>
<br>
You are a friend and very talented, but get real. Please stop
confusing the terminology that is getting accepted and understood.
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There can be up draft stoves and top lit stoves. But the acronym
"TLUD" is something quite specific, and the migratory pyrolytic
front (MPF) is its very distinctive characteristic. If MPF is not
clearly evident, a stove should not be called a TLUD.<br>
<br>
Enough. I hope there is silence about this subject. But do go
ahead and talk about the new kind of Sawdust stove.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/24/2016 4:23 PM, Crispin
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Dear Paul</div>
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It is definitely a TLUD but it is not a TLUD pyrolyser which is
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Perhaps the TLUD builders have slipped into using the shorter
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Couldn't you have:</div>
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I have not tested it yet with a meter to see how well it burns
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<span style="font-size:initial; line-height:initial;
text-align:initial">It is replacing a huge square, almost
cubic steel TLUD loaded with coal which seemed to have no
secondary air and no flame space. They said it worked for a
long time on a load of fuel but was 'very smoky'. It didn't
even look like a stove. I thought it was a storage bin.
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<div>Crispin, Andrew, and all,<br>
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I am glad that it works, and I am not totally sure what type of
combustion method it uses, except that it does not fit the
description of a TLUD stove, which is characterized by a
migrating pyrolytic front (MPF). And a TLUD does not have
"primary air supplied from above."<br>
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Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/24/2016 1:28 PM, Andrew
Heggie wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 24 October 2016 at 09:57,
Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Summary:
It is a TLUD with primary and secondary air
supplied from above. The stove is used to heat
the office of the welding shop.</p>
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<div>Unless I have misread your description I would say
this is a Top Lit Cross Draught.<br>
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<div>It's similar to a device I made to burn stumps out
of the ground using a ford tractor wheel but I used an
old vacuum cleaner to Blast the air in.<br>
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<div>AJH <br>
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